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    Vol Vol is offline

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    Irish Welfare State

    The Republic really need to get a Welfare system similar to the UK's one. I thought Bertie Ahern, being a supposedly Socialist and all, would have done this a long time ago. Wouldn't you?
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    markiemark1 markiemark1 is offline

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    well considering that social welfare has increased by aprox 10% in each of the last 2 budgets and the take home pay of workers has been less than that , i do belive that the bertie has a socialist state
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    welfare is useful only in demoralising - in every sense of the word - the working class. as can be readily seen in the prisons, the maternity wards and the queus in surgeries demanding seroxat etc it has worked as well.
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    What is the diffrence between ours and the UK?
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    west_brit west_brit is offline

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    I think our modest version of the welfare state is very acceptable. In the U.K. the NHS is a fecking joke and a waste of money.
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    Irish people below poverty line: 10%

    British people below poverty line: 17%

    British unemployment 5%

    Irish unemployment 4%


    Ours seems to work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladstone
    Irish people below poverty line: 10%

    British people below poverty line: 17%

    British unemployment 5%

    Irish unemployment 4%


    Ours seems to work fine.
    None of those figures can be attributed to welfare.
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    Gladstone Gladstone is offline

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    Isn't a welfare state meant to eliminate or alleviate poverty? any welfare system that does not do that is a failure.

    We have a welfare to work system that seems to be workign just fine for us.

    It can of course be related to welfare, if we had a rights based welfare system our unemployment rate would be far higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markiemark1
    i do belive that the bertie has a socialist state
    In his mind perhaps
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    In my opinion Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
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