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    HYENA HYENA is offline

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    Inda is Callous Uncaring Nerdy Traitor, so the heckler was loud but correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
    The even mention of arming Gards in response to protesters really ratchets up the situation.

    You think a normal government would call for elections instead of deciding not only to circle the wagons, but start arming a normally unarmed police force in efforts to stamp out protests.

    Who is threatening violence here?

    It would appear FG/LAB have decided anyone who is not with them is against them and they are willing to have such citizens murdered to push their new taxes through for the EU and bondholders.

    How can they say they have a mandate when they are now insinuating the act of shooting Irish citizens?
    You are just being hysterical here Captain.
    Armed or unarmed, I'm confident that (potentially) lethal force will only be used in the event of the imminent threat of death or serious injury materialising for the people under their protection.
    For instance: If a person lunges forward with a raised machete an appropriate degree of lead ventilation might be deemed reasonable?
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    CptSternn CptSternn is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by HYENA View Post
    Inda is Callous Uncaring Nerdy Traitor, so the heckler was loud but correct.
    Don't be giving Nerds a bad name by lumping them in with Enda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Who is John Galt? View Post
    Someday....when you get the time FM... you might regale us with the details of your Pauline metamorphosis from right wing catholic bigot and defender of the "officer class".... to being a champion of the left.
    It suits you to try polarise the debate into a right left confrontation .
    As usual you are way behind the curve ball.

    This is a debate about democracy and the rights of citizens to peacefully protest without being in fear of their lives from the agents of the state.

    The consistent theme of govt in relation to a near universally hated proposed water tax scheme
    has been to demonise all protestors.

    Now that the tactic has backfired spectacularly the idea of lethal force is being thrown about as a weapon of intimidation.

    Politics of right left are small beer compared to the scope of human rights abuses now being contemplated and in part already enacted by Ireland's destabilised govt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    It suits you to try polarise the debate into a right left confrontation .
    As usual you are way behind the curve ball.

    This is a debate about democracy and the rights of citizens to peacefully protest without being in fear of their lives from the agents of the state.

    The consistent theme of govt in relation to a near universally hated proposed water tax scheme
    has been to demonise all protestors.

    Now that the tactic has backfired spectacularly the idea of lethal force is being thrown about as a weapon of intimidation.

    Politics of right left are small beer compared to the scope of human rights abuses now being contemplated and in part already enacted by Ireland's destabilised govt.
    You've never really forgiven them for the abortion thingy ....have you?
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    I was just in the local shop and I got to see today's front pages. They are hysterical and one-sided. The Spin-dependent is particularly loathsome.
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    If you want a real story about the collapse of democracy, it was sitting in the car, not rocking it or shouting at it.
    Our Man In StockholmFor your betters, brow-beating beats being there Our Man In Stockholm
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    Quote Originally Posted by stakerwallace View Post
    Never one to pass up a chance for hyperbole: read Aristotle or something similar to calm yourself down
    I am quite calm thank you.

    The threats to use lethal govt force on protestors expressed by some on this thread and at FG central were entirely expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'orebel View Post
    People can change their minds as Toland would have us believe of labour's volte face on water taxes post election.
    You mean that...theoretically, I could end up being Richard Boyd Barrett's valet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emulator View Post
    Leo just doesn't get it....
    It's the classic lack of empathy among FG politicians.
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