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    Cruimh Cruimh is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
    It's certainly complex, and money/property is still a factor. Article in Irish Examiner this week entitled 'Church keeps sex abuse redress property' by Daniel McConnell - link at end.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...ty-462458.html
    Under Canon Law.....

    Can. 1254 §1. To pursue its proper purposes, the Catholic Church by innate right is able to acquire, retain, administer, and alienate temporal goods independently from civil power.
    Code of Canon Law - IntraText
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Reading the deniers is like watching a bad quality courtroom drama where a dodgy defence lawyer tries to stall and eventually kill a trial by querying everything - and then starting again .... and again..... and the dimwits don't realise that their antics end up reinforcing the case against the Orders.
    That's a very concise description of precisely why the number of self-described catholics has just fallen over a cliff in Ireland.
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    She must have been on the sherry typing those letters. What poor English!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post


    Catholic order of nuns admit emotional abuse and neglect took place in its residential homes


    Sisters of Nazareth have already acknowledged and apologised for physical and sexual attacks



    Catholic order of nuns admit emotional abuse and neglect took place in its residential homes - Irish Mirror Online
    That whole article is so vague as to be meaningless
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    Survivors of Dublin’s largest mother and baby homes call for Tuam-like excavation


    A sign posted in front of Ireland's government building in protest of the Tuam babies mass grave - "You cannot silence the children from the graves."ROLLINGNEWS

    The survivors of St. Patrick’s Mother and Baby home, in Cabra, Dublin, are calling for the Irish Government to excavate the site, in a similar way to the mass grave at Tuam


    Survivors have long warned that Tuam is likely only the tip of the iceberg and a group who spent time at St Patrick’s as infants say the time is now right to get to the bottom of what happened there.


    Smyllum Park, a home in Scotland run by the same order of nuns, is under investigation after claims were made that up to 400 children lie buried on its former grounds.


    Survivors of Smyllum Park and St. Patrick’s are in contact with each other and regularly exchange advice and moral support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
    Mary P. Peterson:

    Nun Abuse: How My Mother, a Former Nun, Suffered at the Hands of 'The Good Sisters'





    https://jezebel.com/nun-abuse-how-my...the-1742877082

    The commentary at the bottom of that is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    True enough for the grandfather who told me in the 1970s 'You'll find the biggest liars in any parish in the front pews of the church on a Sunday' ...
    Not if Eamon Casey had been the celebrant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
    It's certainly complex, and money/property is still a factor. Article in Irish Examiner this week entitled 'Church keeps sex abuse redress property' by Daniel McConnell - link at end.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...ty-462458.html
    You have to wonder what's been going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Survivors of Dublin’s largest mother and baby homes call for Tuam-like excavation


    A sign posted in front of Ireland's government building in protest of the Tuam babies mass grave - "You cannot silence the children from the graves."ROLLINGNEWS

    “They [the mothers] would go into labor, she would be left in almost darkness on her own, a priest would intermittently come in as she was screaming to tell her that this was her penance for having sex outside of marriage.”

    Does anyone actually believe this Garbage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Davison View Post
    The commentary at the bottom of that is amazing.
    Again all this is so vague as to be meaningless
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