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    Dougal Dougal is offline
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    Garda Ombudsman Commission Office infested with Bugs

    It would appear that the Garda Siochana Ombudsman Commission headquarters in Abbey Street has had a slight pest problem. The cost of weeding out these pests has cost them in the region of €50k as not any old rent-a-kill company could carry the necessary extermination.

    According to the Sunday Times, the GSOC hired a British Security firm run by former British Military & Security Services, as recommended to them by the British Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), to investigate whether their office in Abbey Street was bugged. The phone in a room used to hold conferences on sensitive cases was found to be bugged. The Wi-fi network also appears to have been tapped into for the purpose of stealing email, reports and possibly listening in on Mobile phone conversations. A second Wi-fi had been created with a British IP address to "harvest" data. A source said that the British IP address electronically concealed the address & whereabouts of the person doing the spying. A further network was compromised but all data was wiped by the intruders when they realised that had been found out.

    The surveillance appears to have been organised after Alan Shatter, the justice minister, appointed Simon O’Brien, Kieran Fitzgerald and Carmel Foley to lead the garda watchdog in December 2011.
    A report prepared for the three-person commission found there were specific indicators to prove it was being targeted using controlled technology, which is not commercially available or sold to non-government agencies.

    GSOC took the decision to “integrity test” its communications network last summer after concerns were raised about internal security.
    The investigators suspect that the computers of all three commissioners have been compromised but this is not confirmed. Special counter surveillance equipment was 'secretly' shipped to Dublin for the purpose of the investigation which was carried out at night and details were withheld from the Department of Justice & Garda Headquarters as the investigation could not 'categorically identify those involved'. The chair of the commission, Simon O'Brien however is said to have suspicions of who was involved.

    Intrusive Surveillance is allowed for the purpose of spying on those involved in organised crime and terrorism but only by the Garda, Military and Customs. This however must be authorised by a Judge and must be for legitimate purposes. Phone Taps must be approved by the Minister of Justice and the reason detailed.

    Senior security and military sources last night said that no government agency would mount surveillance on another. Other security sources said it would be impossible for a private individual to organise such surveillance.
    So who is spying on who? Is there anyone we can trust anymore. With all the revelations over the past while about the Penalty Point saga and it only now being referred to the GSOC under pressure, makes you really wonder why they did their best to bury it or do we have crime lords acting as big brother or maybe even a bigger brother, who know. Oh what a tangled web we weave!

    This one deserves a "Gate". AbbeyGate? I am sure all you out there will come up with a more appropriate name.


    UPDATE - Sunday Times 16/2/12
    Further revelation in the Sunday Times today. See post #6374 for the update to this threadCan be viewed HERE

    Few bits from week two in this saga, many more articles linked in other posters posts. Link

    There has been much speculation as to why the office of GSOC would/could be bugged. The case of Sophie Toscan du Plantier, a few have even speculated that there may be a French connection in this. Some details of this case can be viewed HERE courtesy of broadsheet.ie

    Another, which many view as the more likely, involves a four year investigation by GSOC relating to the drug smuggler Kieran Boylan.
    broadsheet.ie - The Garda & the Drug dealer
    broadsheet.ie - Black Ops being run off the books
    broadsheet.ie - Head Scratching
    broadsheet.ie - But anything you say will be taken down
    broadsheet.ie - The Snake Pit
    broadsheet.ie - The Appalling Vista
    This case is also being discussed in depth on another thread on this site. Opposition demand answers Garda drugs collusion case


    UPDATE - 19/2/14 - Retired High Court Judge John Cooke Appointed to GSOC Inquiry
    The Government has appointed retired High Court Judge John Cooke to conduct the Independent Inquiry into Reports of Unlawful Surveillance of the Garda Siochána Ombudsman Commission. Terms of Reference can be viewed HERE


    UPDATE- Sunday Times 23/2/14
    Well, it would appear that Verrimus had their own 'peer review' carried out before they submitted their report to GSOC. Post on this article can be found HERE

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    The following are some podcasts, TV & Oireachtas clips, minutes & briefing in date order. Some may be added to a date later as all not available on the actual day.

    9th & 10th February 2014
    TodayFM Savage Sunday 9/2 - only Sunday radio program who discussed the ST article
    Morning Ireland 10/2 - Interview with John Mooney ST Security Correspondenet
    Morning Ireland 10/2 - Interview with Niall Collins FF TD
    Newstalk Breakfast 10/2 - Interview with John Mooney ST Security Correspondent
    Pat Kenny Show 10/2 - commences at 7m20s
    The Last Word with Matt Cooper 10/2 - Interview with John Mooney commences 2m30s
    Briefing Note to Minister for Justice from GSOC 10/2

    11th February 2014
    Today with Sean O'Rourke 11/2 - with Tom Clonan, Ritchie Culhane, Charlie Flanagan FG, Stephen Collins
    Morning Ireland 11/2 - RTE Crime Correspondent Paul Reynolds on the GSOC sage
    Morning Ireland 11/2 - Brendan Howlin speaking on the GSOC saga
    The Pat Kenny Show 11/2 - Commences at 7m
    Leaders Questions 11/2 - VIDEO Taoiseach tells Dáil no evidence of bugging
    Statement to the Dáil by Alan Shatter on allegations of surveillance of offices of GSOC
    VIDEO Clare Daly speaking in Dáil Members debate 11/2 on the GSOC saga
    RTE 9 O'Clock News - David Davin-Power & Paul Reynolds reporting
    Prime Time 11/2 - VIDEO Interview with Kieran Fitzgerald of GSOC

    12th February 2014
    Morning Ireland 12/2 - with Mary Regan, Deputy Political Editor, Irish Examiner
    Newstalk Breakfast 12/2 - commences 5m43s
    Today with Sean O'Rourke 12/2 - Interview with John Mooney ST
    The Pat Kenny Show 12/2 - commences at 8m30s
    Leaders Questions 12/2 - VIDEO Kenny questioned by G Adams on his view of Section 80(5) of the Act
    RTE THE LATE DEBATE 12/2 - with John Mooney, Pádraig MacLoclainn SF, Michelle Mulherin FG & Mark Kelly (CCL)
    Transcript - Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions 12/2
    Transcript - Public Service Oversight Committee - GSOC

    13th February 2014
    Morning Ireland 13/2 - commences 15m55s
    Newstalk Breakfast 13/2 - Commences at 7m
    Leaders Questions 13/2 (Gilmore) - Niall Collins FF
    Leaders Questions 13/2 (Gilmore) - Mary Lou McDonald SF
    Today with Sean O'Rourke RTE 13/2 - with Micheal Martin FF & Conor Brady, Former Garda Ombudsman
    PrimeTime 13/2 - Interview with Alan Shatter

    14th February 2014
    Morning Ireland(Part 1) 14/2 - commences 5m45s
    Morning Ireland(Part 2) 14/2 - commences at 12m32s
    Newstalk Breakfast 14/2 - commences 4m50s
    The Pat Kenny Show (part 1) Newstalk 14/2 - commences 5m30s
    The Pat Kenny Show (part 2) Newstalk 14/2 - commences 45m30s
    Today with Sean O'Rourke 14/2 - with Pat Rabbitte
    RTE News at One 14/2 - includes part press conference with Martin Callinan & Alan Shatter
    VIDEO 14/2 - Press Conference - Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan & Minister for Justice Alan Shatter

    15th February 2014
    RTE Radio 1 15/2 - Playback with Marian Richardson
    RTE Radio 1 15/2 - Saturday with Claire Byrne

    16th February 2014
    RTE Radio 1 - This Week 16/2
    Savage Sunday Today FM 16/2 - commences 14m

    17th February 2014
    Morning Ireland 17/2 - commences 21m25s Mark Kelly & at 1h15m38s Joe Costello & 1h50m48s Charlie Flannagan
    Newstalk Breakfast 17/2 - commences 6m35s John Mooney
    The Pat Kenny Show 17/2 – commences 6m50s Tom Clonan
    Today with Sean O'Rourke 17/2 – Tom Clonan 1h2m44s

    18th February 2014
    Today with Sean O'Rourke 18/2 – Paul Williams commences 21m38s
    The Pat Kenny Show Newstalk 18/2 – commences 6m58s Bobby Kerr & Tom Clonan
    Newstalk Lunchtime 18/2 – commences 10m14s Paul Williams
    Leaders Questions FF – 18/2
    Leaders Questions SF – 18/2
    DriveTime 18/2 – commences 3m31s & 39m33s
    TodayFM The Last Word/Matt Cooper 18/2 – commences 6m43s
    RTE 1 The Late Debate 18/2 – Paul Farrell FG, Thomas Byrne FF, Michael Finacan, John Devitt
    Verrimus Statement 18/2
    http://static.rasset.ie/documents/ne...tterspeech.pdf Transcript of Minister Shatters speech to Dáil 18/2
    PrimeTime 18/2 – Katie Hannon, Padraig Mac Loughlainn SF & Charlie Flannagan FG

    19th February 2014
    Morning Ireland 19/2 – commences 22m12s & 1h14m56s
    Newstalk Breakfast 19/2 – commences 6m35s
    The Pat Kenny Show Newstalk 19/2 – commences 6m46s
    Verrimus Statement 19/2
    Leaders Question 19/2 FF
    Leaders Questions 19/2 SF
    DriveTime 19/2 – commence 3m21s & 1h11m06s
    The Last Word with Matt Cooper – commences 4m18s
    RTE Radio 1 The Late Debate 19/2 – Noel Harrington FG, Mary Lou McDonald SF, John Mooney, Tom Clonan
    Transcript - Public Services Oversight Committee - Alan Shatter

    20th February 2014
    Morning Ireland 20/2 – commences 13m26s
    Leaders Questions 20/2 - FF
    Leaders Questions 20/2 - SF
    DriveTime 20/2 - commences 1h43m10s - discussing the Ind Review, Terms of Ref & Judge Cooke

    21st February 2014
    BBC News - Dublin bugging scandal: Hi-tech surveillance and intrigue

    22nd February 2014
    Newstalk 22/2 - Talking Point with Sarah Carey
    RTE Radio 22/2 - Saturday with Claire Byrne

    23rd February 2014
    RTE Radio 23/2 - Marian Finucane

    24th February 2014
    The Thin Blue Timeline - broadsheet.ie - timeline of GSOC & Whistleblower saga to date

    10th June 2014
    Statement by Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald on the Cooke Report See this post for full transcript
    The Cooke Report can be downloaded from a link at the bottom of this Link
    Press Release from GSOC in response to the Cooke Report 11th June 2014 HERE

    12th June 2014
    Press Release from Verrimus (via their tweet machine) - HERE
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    pluralist2 pluralist2 is offline

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    Interesting - thanks for posting it.
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    I was expecting this to be about electronic bugs.
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    By any sane objective criteria this should be a massive story. Someone is using controlled technology to spy on the Garda Ombudsman. It can only either be another arm of the State; or a hostile foreign State that has helpers in Ireland.

    Expect this to be quietly buried by the Dublin meeja.
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    I expect the Garda Ombudsman to investigate for four years and then declare that it was all a storm in a teacup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideysGhost View Post
    By any sane objective criteria this should be a massive story. Someone is using controlled technology to spy on the Garda Ombudsman. It can only either be another arm of the State; or a hostile foreign State that has helpers in Ireland.

    Expect this to be quietly buried by the Dublin meeja.
    Its quite obviously the old bill. That dodgy old force with the distinction of being the last unreformed fascist organisation since the thirties in the world - the old gang which cost the taxpayer eighty eight million in costs for the Morris Tribunal investigation into their antics. Why wouldn't they be watching their backs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    ...The investigators suspect that the computers of all three commissioners have been compromised but this is not confirmed. Special counter surveillance equipment was 'secretly' shipped to Dublin for the purpose of the investigation which was carried out at night and details were withheld from the Department of Justice & Garda Headquarters as the investigation could not 'categorically identify those involved'....
    Surprise,surprise !

    Wasn't there some episode in Donegal a few years ago where it was alleged that a room used by solicitors for consultation with their clients was bugged?

    But it's not all bad news. The GSOC office is a pretty gloomy,decrepit looking building.

    Easy to wipe the slate and move elsewhere.

    When the newly built American embassy in Moscow was swept for bugs,so many were found that the building had to be demolished.
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    Limerick Lad Limerick Lad is offline

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    Given the high profile ongoing phone hacking trail at the Old Bailey perhaps there shouldn't be a rush to judgement as to who may be responsible for this alleged bugging.
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    SideysGhost SideysGhost is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    Given the high profile ongoing phone hacking trail at the Old Bailey perhaps there shouldn't be a rush to judgement as to who may be responsible for this alleged bugging.
    Pull the other one. This is tightly-controlled technology, that is supposed to only be authorised for limited use by a judge in organised crime and anti-terrorism cases. The only people who have access to it in most countries are the cops, the army, customs and the secret services. You'll note that none of those groups normally include journalists, though in Ireland I admit the lines between "journalist" and "state agent" are rather blurred.

    Nice, if feeble, attempt at deflection though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    Given the high profile ongoing phone hacking trail at the Old Bailey perhaps there shouldn't be a rush to judgement as to who may be responsible for this alleged bugging.
    Lol. First distraction attempt - nice.
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