View Poll Results: Does Ireland need stricter Animal Cruelty laws?

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    NewGoldDream NewGoldDream is offline
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    This thread needs some perspective.

    Yes it was sick and twisted. But the victim was a dog. So while it was sick and twisted, no it does not equate with killing a baby, no it does not mean he will become a serial killer. I know fellows who have drowned pups, yet treated kids wonderfully and managed to avoid ending up with a line of corpses in their cellar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    This thread needs some perspective.

    Yes it was sick and twisted. But the victim was a dog. So while it was sick and twisted, no it does not equate with killing a baby, no it does not mean he will become a serial killer. I know fellows who have drowned pups, yet treated kids wonderfully and managed to avoid ending up with a line of corpses in their cellar.
    It does mean that there is a better chance of him becoming a killer. There are many studies to show this and other posters have provided links.
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    If the owner didn't want the dog why didn't he just surrender it - and the same goes for people who think that it's permissible to drown puppies - why don't they just spay their bloomin animals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    At the very least they should be able to get him for the violent threats he made against the inspector.

    Why is animal cruelty treated so lightly by the courts?
    Possibly because lobbies like the Greyhound or Coursing Lobbies want to be able to dispose of ''non performing assets'' without much hassle but then again I really don't know.

    Dogs are extremely intelligent animals and can experience a wide range of emotions including a form of love for their owners, they can be depressed, jealous, anxious, excited......just because their intelligence is not on par with ours we think of them as 'dumb animals' or at least some do. My own dog is very intelligent and very emotional. If I have to go away for a few nights he knows and literally cries when I am leaving in the morning. He gets very excited when I return (too excited at times! The amount of paw prints I have on good trousers.......but I don't mind too much), he gets jealous if I give other dogs too much attention when out walking and he HATES cats (how cliched, but true!).

    I'm not one of those people who think animals lives are somehow on par with humans but that doesn't mean their lives are worthless either. Dogs and humans have coexisted to such an extent that the relationship is very symbiotic in some cases.

    Basically, pet dogs depend on humans much like a young child does for so much. No matter what state I am in, I always, always make sure my dog is well fed, gets plenty of fresh air and attention and is made feel needed. In return he gives me unconditional love and loyalty and as he's is getting on in years (12 now) a broken heart - again. Its no surprise that disturbed people take to mutilating animals as 'practice' and although not everyone who is abusive to animals is going to go on to be Hannibal Lector, the seed is probably already there. Basically, someone who harms a defenceless animal is a truly sick and depraved individual who needs monitoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonkers View Post
    It does mean that there is a better chance of him becoming a killer. There are many studies to show this and other posters have provided links.
    Ach, the same could be said of so many other factors. Being the child of a single mother or from a broken marriage may be relevant, but not sure I'd bother intervening on debates on divorce with the observation that the kids could become serial killers! The issue can stand by itself without injecting a serial killing angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    This thread needs some perspective.

    Yes it was sick and twisted. But the victim was a dog. So while it was sick and twisted, no it does not equate with killing a baby, no it does not mean he will become a serial killer. I know fellows who have drowned pups, yet treated kids wonderfully and managed to avoid ending up with a line of corpses in their cellar.
    But, but, but...Dogs are people too ya know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    But, but, but...Dogs are people too ya know!
    And mine is very immature 12 year old black lab who thinks he is still a tiny puppy that you can comfortably sit on a sofa with.....I love him but Jaysus at times he drives me mad. Like a human might!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    Dog hacked to death with axe on Valentine’s Day · TheJournal.ie - not for the faint of heart.

    It seems the scum that carried out this act on the defenceless animal also made violent threats on the female Animal Welfare Inspector when she went to investigate this. Clearly he is not right in the head and needs to be locked up for the good of the community, but according to the North Wexford SPCA they are “not confident” of a conviction and that they are frequently “frustrated with the law” around animal cruelty.

    Surely it is time for our gutless politicians to get this sorted?
    So you do not like animal cruelty then? So how do you feel about Halal meat then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Can you explain why a severely handicapped baby is more important than, for example, an ape that is able to communicate via sign language?
    My jaw just slapped off the desk.
    And I say that as somebody who's still wearing her last dog's medal as a charm.
    F**king hell, I can't believe you just made that statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The OD View Post
    Dogs are extremely intelligent animals and can experience a wide range of emotions including a form of love for their owners, they can be depressed, jealous, anxious, excited......just because their intelligence is not on par with ours we think of them as 'dumb animals' or at least some do. My own dog is very intelligent and very emotional. If I have to go away for a few nights he knows and literally cries when I am leaving in the morning. He gets very excited when I return (too excited at times! The amount of paw prints I have on good trousers.......but I don't mind too much), he gets jealous if I give other dogs too much attention when out walking and he HATES cats (how cliched, but true!).
    My fella goes into a massive depression when he sees a suit case being produced!
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