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    Re: Irish Student jailed in Senegal for 'mooning'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Anyone who is stupid enough to go to an African country even one as good as Senegal and as African countries go Senegal is one of the the best ones and moon someone and I think it was someone important, deservers to spend time in jail. I have no absolutely no sympathy for this guy.
    Yeah, but six months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    i say any sentence he gets will be nothing compared to the kick up the arse his mother will probably give him for acting the fool,
    I really, really doubt that.
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddiepops
    Holy crap? What is wrong with you people? Showing ur are is worht six months in a stinking jail? Are you actually serious? This is relativism gone completely f998ing mental. Of course the damage done by his mooning people must be utterly untold, and 6 months rotting in a foreign prison in shocking conditions after going over as a volunteer couldnt barely begin to address it, but surely a better way exists. Ye all need to take a look at yourselves on this one. Just because something is a law in a foreign country, does not automatically make it correct, sensible or worthy of our respect. Utterly insane.
    it's an Islamic country. Islamic countries are usually very strict when it comes to displays of nudity or partial nudity. What this chap did is probably very offensive to the people who live there. They can't be judged by us by our standards. They have their own standards and ways that suits them in their country. This is not a human rights issue and as such it's a law that is worthy of respect by visitors to that country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    Quote Originally Posted by Coles
    I'm inclined to agree, Painting Medium... I would only hope that he receives a fair trial and that any sentance takes into account his ignorance of the seriousness of his actions. Must be hard on his family...
    I would agree with you here as well, plus i say any sentence he gets will be nothing compared to the kick up the arse his mother will probably give him for acting the fool,
    Yeah I'd say that's his main concern at the moment. Jesus.....

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    Re: Irish Student jailed in Senegal for 'mooning'

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    As far as I know, he was put in jail about 10 days ago,locked in a cell with many other inmates, has been refused bail and has a trial at the end of this month with the prosecution hoping he will get 6 MONTHS jailtime. Fair enough - he made a stupid mistake but we're talking about a student who went out there as a volunteer teaching English to children. It is disgraceful that there hasn't been more of an outcry about this and a sad reflection on this country. I don't know if anything could be done to help but I do know that more could be tried.
    Anyone who is stupid enough to go to an African country even one as good as Senegal and as African countries go Senegal is one of the the best ones and moon someone and I think it was someone important, deservers to spend time in jail. I have no absolutely no sympathy for this guy.
    Yeah he went over to help children learn English. What a moron he is.... 'no sympathy' the amount of people on this website who seem to never have done anything wrong is sickening at times....
    L'Chaim - Yes, the law is worthy of respect and he obviously should have known better - However surely the fact that he went over there to help children of that country learn English is worthy of respect too. He is one of thousands that have volunteered in Senegal to help the people of that country. Does all their work count for nothing? It is an insult to their work that when one of them makes a slight mistake and doesn't pay due attention to their culture they attempt to lock up him for 6 f..kin months in a cell with 40 people where he is an outcast! If they had been sensible about the situation, they could have immediately deported him and told him if he ever came back, he would be immediately arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddiepops
    Holy crap? What is wrong with you people? Showing ur are is worht six months in a stinking jail? Are you actually serious? This is relativism gone completely f998ing mental. Of course the damage done by his mooning people must be utterly untold, and 6 months rotting in a foreign prison in shocking conditions after going over as a volunteer couldnt barely begin to address it, but surely a better way exists. Ye all need to take a look at yourselves on this one. Just because something is a law in a foreign country, does not automatically make it correct, sensible or worthy of our respect. Utterly insane.
    Of course he doesn't deserve six months in jail for this. But I find it very hard to feel sorry for someone who is clearly a complete moron. It's Africa, things are a bit different, you have to accept that and people clearly have to avoid doing things that will get them in trouble with the police a lot more then they do in Western Countries.

    I will say I wouldn't say be surprised if Senegal are just looking for money from Ireland in all this and this might be all very easily be solved by us giving Senegal money. Hopefully they won't start claiming he gave children aids though.
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    Re: Irish Student jailed in Senegal for 'mooning'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudge
    As far as I know, he was put in jail about 10 days ago,locked in a cell with many other inmates, has been refused bail and has a trial at the end of this month with the prosecution hoping he will get 6 MONTHS jailtime. Fair enough - he made a stupid mistake but we're talking about a student who went out there as a volunteer teaching English to children. It is disgraceful that there hasn't been more of an outcry about this and a sad reflection on this country. I don't know if anything could be done to help but I do know that more could be tried.
    Anyone who is stupid enough to go to an African country even one as good as Senegal and as African countries go Senegal is one of the the best ones and moon someone and I think it was someone important, deservers to spend time in jail. I have no absolutely no sympathy for this guy.
    Yeah he went over to help children learn English. What a moron he is.... 'no sympathy' the amount of people on this website who seem to never have done anything wrong is sickening at times....
    L'Chaim - Yes, the law is worthy of respect and he obviously should have known better - However surely the fact that he went over there to help children of that country learn English is worthy of respect too. He is one of thousands that have volunteered in Senegal to help the people of that country. Does all their work count for nothing? It is an insult to their work that when one of them makes a slight mistake and doesn't pay due attention to their culture they attempt to lock up him for 6 f..kin months in a cell with 40 people where he is an outcast! If they had been sensible about the situation, they could have immediately deported him and told him if he ever came back, he would be immediately arrested.
    Maybe the volunteer work he did there will count for something........at his court case. maybe the judge will take that into account. He hasn't got the 6 months yet
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    Re: Irish Student jailed in Senegal for 'mooning'

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudge
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudge
    As far as I know, he was put in jail about 10 days ago,locked in a cell with many other inmates, has been refused bail and has a trial at the end of this month with the prosecution hoping he will get 6 MONTHS jailtime. Fair enough - he made a stupid mistake but we're talking about a student who went out there as a volunteer teaching English to children. It is disgraceful that there hasn't been more of an outcry about this and a sad reflection on this country. I don't know if anything could be done to help but I do know that more could be tried.
    Anyone who is stupid enough to go to an African country even one as good as Senegal and as African countries go Senegal is one of the the best ones and moon someone and I think it was someone important, deservers to spend time in jail. I have no absolutely no sympathy for this guy.
    Yeah he went over to help children learn English. What a moron he is.... 'no sympathy' the amount of people on this website who seem to never have done anything wrong is sickening at times....
    L'Chaim - Yes, the law is worthy of respect and he obviously should have known better - However surely the fact that he went over there to help children of that country learn English is worthy of respect too. He is one of thousands that have volunteered in Senegal to help the people of that country. Does all their work count for nothing? It is an insult to their work that when one of them makes a slight mistake and doesn't pay due attention to their culture they attempt to lock up him for 6 f..kin months in a cell with 40 people where he is an outcast! If they had been sensible about the situation, they could have immediately deported him and told him if he ever came back, he would be immediately arrested.
    Maybe the volunteer work he did there will count for something........at his court case. maybe the judge will take that into account. He hasn't got the 6 months yet
    The mere fact that he was put in jail and they are attempting to get him 6 months is ridiculous. It will hurt them too in the long run,volunteers research before they go anywhere. Until this,Senegal had been one of the better African countries to volunteer in - I'd imagine next year there will be a sharp decline in the numbers going there from Ireland anyway - they just cost thousands of children over there the chance to learn English....real smart move.

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    He only mooned somebody. 6 months is a joke of a sentence. I dont care if it is their law- its an overly strict one, and we should be pressuring the Senagalise Govt to release him.

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    Re: Irish Student jailed in Senegal for 'mooning'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudge
    Quote Originally Posted by michael1965
    Quote Originally Posted by smiffy
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudge
    There must be some manner in which authorities over there could be pressured. Edit - It would help if it attracted more national coverage.
    You reckon? Frankly, I would have thought the less national coverage the more likely it would be that the Senegalese government might be lenient and amenable to requests for clemency from the Irish authorities. If they were seen to be giving in to a public outcry in a Western state, however, they might be more likely to stand their ground, particularly as, strictly speaking, they're in the right.
    True. Another example of the ugly westerner with little respect for local values.
    What exactly is Senegal an example of then? A civilised,noble country??? A 19 year old volunteers to go over there and spend his summer teaching kids English, he makes a minor mistake, could they not just deport him? Why do they need to throw him in jail, put him in a cell with up to 40 inmates and seek 6 months jailtime for him?
    So what? Perhaps he should have spent some time respecting local laws as well as teaching English?

    Sure the sentence is a little harsh, but he did break the law and he's now being punished.
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