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    Have the Governemnet Really Messed up with the early retirement scheme?

    Another Garda commissioner retires - The Irish Times - Wed, Feb 01, 2012

    Management 101 would tell you that if you are cutting down numbers in your team you need to identify and ring-fence those staff members needed to ensure continuity of efficiences within the team. Otherwise, you have a drain of experienced people and while you are left with the "right" number of people, you are left with the wrong skills mix.
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    To be honest I have to assume the early retirement scheme was one of the "mines" Brian Lenihan joked about with a twinkle in his when he left office.

    It was brilliant - with one fell swoop they've decimated many of the public services and created a nightmare for the government to manage. In fairness the government have handled it very badly - almost like they were ignoring it and hoping it would just go away (a bit like much of their other strategies, it has to be said) - but i do think this has all the hallmarks of a devious mind in FF looking for ways to cause chaos with little no regard to the citizens of the country.
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    yabbadabbadooo the Gov have made an pigs ear off sumit now to hound them without mercy till they go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    To be honest I have to assume the early retirement scheme was one of the "mines" Brian Lenihan joked about with a twinkle in his when he left office.

    It was brilliant - with one fell swoop they've decimated many of the public services and created a nightmare for the government to manage. In fairness the government have handled it very badly - almost like they were ignoring it and hoping it would just go away (a bit like much of their other strategies, it has to be said) - but i do think this has all the hallmarks of a devious mind in FF looking for ways to cause chaos with little no regard to the citizens of the country.
    But they have had a year to defuse that mine. They knew it was there. It only seems now that they are starting to realise the problems it is about to cause. Too little, too late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee slabber View Post
    But they have had a year to defuse that mine. They knew it was there. It only seems now that they are starting to realise the problems it is about to cause. Too little, too late?
    I'm not sure it was reversible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
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    It was brilliant - with one fell swoop they've decimated many of the public services and created a nightmare for the government to manage....
    Really? Care to provide some statistical analysis in support of this theory?

    I would imagine if there's anything the people of this country could be said to agree upon it's that numbers/wages of public sector staff need to be "slashed". I would imagine the government is doing nothing less than giving the "people" precisely what they have claimed to want for several years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee slabber View Post
    But they have had a year to defuse that mine. They knew it was there. It only seems now that they are starting to realise the problems it is about to cause. Too little, too late?
    Completely agree there - but there's an annoying habit they've had in the near year they've been in government to not want to deal with anything because then they might actually have to take some blame for anything, all the while ratchetting up the problem.
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    An FF landmine or gross incompetence? If it was a landmine it's playing out like the Austin Powers scene above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauntersplash View Post
    Really? Care to provide statistical analysis to prove this theory?
    3% of the staff leaving, mostly the most experienced of the lot - okay, not quite the classical 10% required to actually be a decimation, but you can see the impact it nearly had on the ODCE yesterday and if anecdotes are to be considered many JC and LC classes will lose key teachers in Mar, mid-wives will disappear in an already stretched environment, etc.
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