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    "Close to 4,000 who earned over €100,000 paid no tax"

    Yet another example of the reforming zeal of Mr Brian Cowen.

    Close to 4,000 who earned over €100,000 paid no tax - The Irish Times - Sat, Aug 28, 2010

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    But they are friends of Da Party. Would you make your friends pay tax????
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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Yet another example of the reforming zeal of Mr Brian Cowen.

    Close to 4,000 who earned over €100,000 paid no tax - The Irish Times - Sat, Aug 28, 2010
    a question

    if you, earned in excess of 500k pa and, were in a position to arrange your affairs so that you paid no tax

    would you so arrange your affairs or would you pay??

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    no ones labour should be taxed its a crime against humanity.
    If the aholes in government stopped spending and wasting money like a child in a sweetshop ,there are enough taxes from vat and stealth taxes to keep this country running no problem.
    A champion of the people emerges with the age-old and appealing promise of "something for nothing" - to be financed through every-increasing taxes. Supply and demand are thrown out of gear - the overhead goes up; the effective use of human energy goes down; the standard of living is lowered because money cannot buy wealth that is not produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TODevastated View Post
    a question

    if you, earned in excess of 500k pa and, were in a position to arrange your affairs so that you paid no tax

    would you so arrange your affairs or would you pay??
    That's not the issue. The issue is that it should not be possible for such people to avoid paying tax at all. It shouldn't be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantic View Post
    no ones labour should be taxed its a crime against humanity.
    If the aholes in government stopped spending and wasting money like a child in a sweetshop ,there are enough taxes from vat and stealth taxes to keep this country running no problem.
    "A crime against humanity" - it's a little early in the morning for that kind of hyperbole. Tone it down, sir.

    Taxes such as VAT etc. are regressive and hit the poor the hardest. Income tax can be and should be progressive, hitting the higher earners hardest and the lower ones softer.

    Where is your evidence that "VAT and stealth taxes" are sufficient "to keep this country running no problem"?

    What is a 'stealth tax'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantic View Post
    no ones labour should be taxed its a crime against humanity.
    If the aholes in government stopped spending and wasting money like a child in a sweetshop ,there are enough taxes from vat and stealth taxes to keep this country running no problem.
    Such views are a crime against humanity. VAT is an unfair tax in that it penalises everyone equally irrespective of wealth. It is not a crime or even unfair to ask people to contribute towards the nations well being. People may use whacked out political ideologies to pretend there is some moral principle involved but at the end of the day it is selfishness.

    The OP also forgot to mention that the top 5% pay half of all income tax and an equal scandal is the vast swathes of society that pay no income tax at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TODevastated View Post
    a question

    if you, earned in excess of 500k pa and, were in a position to arrange your affairs so that you paid no tax

    would you so arrange your affairs or would you pay??
    I would. But it does'nt make it right that I'd be able to. I should have to pay tax the same as someone who is earning €50,000, or somebody earning €20,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Yet another example of the reforming zeal of Mr Brian Cowen.

    Close to 4,000 who earned over €100,000 paid no tax - The Irish Times - Sat, Aug 28, 2010
    I keep saying this all salaries and pension contributions over €100,000 should be subject to a levy of 99%. Both public and private.

    This levy should be removed as soon as the employment levels average salaries and GDP/GNP a returned to 2006 levels.

    Until the people at the top of the piles interests are aligned directly with those at the bottom they will continue to act in a way designed only to protect their own incomes and fiefdoms. However the disappearance of large chunks of their income in a levy would focus their minds especially if the carrot of the removal of the levy once certain targets were reached was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deiseguy View Post
    I keep saying this all salaries and pension contributions over €100,000 should be subject to a levy of 99%. Both public and private.

    This levy should be removed as soon as the employment levels average salaries and GDP/GNP a returned to 2006 levels.

    Until the people at the top of the piles interests are aligned directly with those at the bottom they will continue to act in a way designed only to protect their own incomes and fiefdoms. However the disappearance of large chunks of their income in a levy would focus their minds especially if the carrot of the removal of the levy once certain targets were reached was there.
    While I like the broad outline of your plan, the levy being set at 99% would seem a tad draconian and likely to be counter productive as people either hide their earnings or defer them for a few years (until your conditions are met).
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