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Well most of the generals are "onside"
The soldiers are taking a little longer to convince.
RTÉ News: AHCPS back Croke Park agreement
Well most of the generals are "onside"
The soldiers are taking a little longer to convince.
The current government may be able to hold out through 2 budgets and keep their side of this deal but they're putting the next government on the back foot.
I hope this deal is rejected as i believe its the ordinary taxpayers best interest
None of the news reports set out with any detail the 'clarifications' provided, which have been a significant factor in the acceptance of the deal...
If Labour or FG have an issue with the agreement then they should make a statement to the effect otherwise they can have no complaints when as seems likely they form a government after the next election.Originally Posted by grafter1
I think you pretty much expose the heart of the matter there. To me the Croke Park deal always looked like a time buying/face saving exercise on the part of the Government. All it really proposes is to delay the inevitable, namely more cuts to the PS/Govt spending.
However, the Government know that they have a finite ammount of time left in office, which is just enough to keep borrowing and refrain from taking the really really tough decisions. As opposed to the fairly easy and imperative ones already made.
To me, the acceptance of this deal will enable FF to stave off decisions and unrest just long enough until the Opposition have to do the dirty work and break the agreement in 2012. FF will then maintain the lie that they "would not have implemented additional pay cuts"! (As outlined in the Croke Park deal!)
Remarkable for FF, nobody in public life is reading between the lines. The opposition are buying the line that this is necessary to prevent unrest. The right-wing elements in the media are presenting this as a moment akin to Maggie crushing the Miners Strike. And, large sections of the PS Union leadership are accepting at face value the blatant lie that current wages can be maintained.
Regretfully, nodbody in the media has really bothered to examined how unrealistic the deal is. The, as usual, have gotten bogged down in the soap opera symantics of public/private and will they/won't they!
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the public sector which is overmanned and over paid get let off the hook again.
this goverment have no balls.
the private sector and those that can least afford it will be hung out to dry.
kinda surprised this is only being posted now.
IMPACT have changed their tune too and are now advocating accepting the deal to their membership too based on assurances on relocation and pensions entitlements (i.e lenny took em off the table and is leaving them the same)
if others have mentioned it i'll withdraw that but i thought it wouldve merrited a thread in itself.
its starting to look like this may go through.
+10..terrific analysis
In my opinion no deal should be negotiated in the current climate as there are just too many known unknowns and too many unknown unknowns.
If this Greece issue keeps going for much longer we'll be looking for €6-8Bn in cuts this year to avoid a bailout rather than the €3-4Bn that's currently envisaged.
It's not fair to anyone to agree a deal that just doesn't make any sense
I agree. The deal makes less sense with each passing day. It will probably turn out to be not worth the paper its written on.
As regards the cuts, I personally have felt that €3-4 Billion was on the conservative side of what is needed, and that given the decimation of Capital budgets, any Government with half an eye on the future shold look almost solely at Current spending.
As things stand, events may force us to do just that.
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