The problem with hating Britain/British culture

[terry666]

The problem with this is you are basically hating the culture and make-up of tens of millions of people.

Culture and idenity, makes us who we are, by Republicans saying they hate Britain and its cultural identity, you are saying you hate British people in an underhand way. The problem is 1 million people in the North have a British-Irish identity, as do many in the South. Just as many Irish immigrants Britain have an Irish-British identity.

Using such terms as "Brit",also used by the Sinn Fein mods on this site, is ment as an underhand derogatory term and used to enforce contempt you have towards your neighbours.

Whining on about history is used as a means to attempting to enforce an attitude of moral supremacism against your neighbours/countrymen and another means of attempting to belittle them and their culture/history. A history whether right or wrong they inherited by birth, just like any other culture.

[Jacobin]

Pogo Pogo

[Jacobin]

Whining on about history,is used as a means to attempting to enforce an attitude of moral supremacism against your neighbours/countrymen and another means of attempting to belittle them and their culture/history. A history whether right or wrong they inherited by birth, just like any other culture.

What country is obsessed with bringing up WW2? Is there any other country that produces more programs on the germans and WW2 than the british?

In all fairness the british are the biggest whiners of all. Weaklings in fact :wink:

[DOD]

Brit is not used generally about people, it is more to do with the forces of imperialism. I see no problem with this. I do know some republicans who use the slang term 'Brit' for English people, but it's no worse than us being called Paddies or Micks, which personally I have no problem with. Personally I think you suffer from deep self loathing and are either in need of an orgy or religious life to give you a sense of fulfillment. Perhaps you can combine the two?

[terry666]

Paddy and Mick are classed as offensive terms.

Brit is said in a way as to invoke contempt.

[bobbysands81]

The problem with this is you are basically hating the culture and make-up of tens of millions of people.

Culture and idenity, makes us who we are, by Republicans saying they hate Britain and its cultural identity, you are saying you hate British people in an underhand way. The problem is 1 million people in the North have a British-Irish identity, as do many in the South. Just as many Irish immigrants Britain have an Irish-British identity.

Using such terms as "Brit",also used by the Sinn Fein mods on this site, is ment as an underhand derogatory term and used to enforce contempt you have towards your neighbours.

Whining on about history is used as a means to attempting to enforce an attitude of moral supremacism against your neighbours/countrymen and another means of attempting to belittle them and their culture/history. A history whether right or wrong they inherited by birth, just like any other culture.

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So many words without actually saying anything.

[Brian Capture]

Plenty Irish people who consider themselves republicans buy The Sun.

Idiots.

[Riadach]

I certainly do not detest English/British culture or go around calling people Brits. In fact I quite envy them. They speak they're own language, and although they don't realise it because their culture is the Anglo-American culture, and is no longer solely theirs, they are proud of their traditions and have not surrendered them, but change them as foreign influences become popular.

However, some people on this site, and they shall remain nameless, have accused me of being a Republican, because I stated that Irishmen were as much involved in foreign armies as they were in the British.

As regards Irish culture today, it is my firm belief that British culture has some part to play. We speak their language, we practise their customs, even in the context of religion. Which is all well and good, considering many of us can trace our origins to Britain. However, it should not replace Irish culture, in fact it should work alongside it. I feel the decline of the Irish language is almost an admission that the culture native to this island, the culture where almost all of us can trace our origin too, that our native culture is inferior.

Many columnists and polemicists, frequently argue that the Irish culture and language is not native to many people in Ireland, thus British culture should not be ignored. This means for example, Irish should not be taught in schools. But there are two sides to this coin, English is a compulsory language both for economy and education, but British culture and language is not native to many people in Ireland? Is sauce for the goose not sauce for the gander?

A new Ireland, would be a true mix of the two, recognising both of these elements in our history and culture, but denying neither of them. A place, where both catholic and protestant, Irish and British, newcomer and old stock would feel comfortable. Not a place where one group is completely unaware of the culture and language of the other, but where both are fully aware of both, so that both may consider both languages and both cultures to be their own. A bilingual (I'd be willing to extend to tri-lingual and include Ullans even) multi-cultural Ireland.

[Ireland2007]

Yeah the sun is some paper

[jjacollins]

Terry66 wrote: Whining on about history is used as a means to attempting to enforce an attitude of moral supremacism against your neighbours/countrymen and another means of attempting to belittle them and their culture/history. A history whether right or wrong they inherited by birth, just like any other culture.

Please lets not bring the Orange Order into this.

BTW terry, Irish Republicans don't hate Britain, they hate the inperialist attitude that has hung over in some from the dark days of the British Empire.