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    Also available here.

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    Official reaction from Cardinal Brady here.

    20 March 2010

    14. I now wish to propose to you some concrete initiatives to address the situation.

    At the conclusion of my meeting with the Irish bishops, I asked that Lent this year be set aside as a time to pray for an outpouring of God’s mercy and the Holy Spirit’s gifts of holiness and strength upon the Church in your country. I now invite all of you to devote your Friday penances, for a period of one year, between now and Easter 2011, to this intention. I ask you to offer up your fasting, your prayer, your reading of Scripture and your works of mercy in order to obtain the grace of healing and renewal for the Church in Ireland. I encourage you to discover anew the sacrament of Reconciliation and to avail yourselves more frequently of the transforming power of its grace.

    Particular attention should also be given to Eucharistic adoration, and in every diocese there should be churches or chapels specifically devoted to this purpose. I ask parishes, seminaries, religious houses and monasteries to organize periods of Eucharistic adoration, so that all have an opportunity to take part. Through intense prayer before the real presence of the Lord, you can make reparation for the sins of abuse that have done so much harm, at the same time imploring the grace of renewed strength and a deeper sense of mission on the part of all bishops, priests, religious and lay faithful.

    I am confident that this programme will lead to a rebirth of the Church in Ireland in the fullness of God’s own truth, for it is the truth that sets us free (cf. Jn 8:32).

    Furthermore, having consulted and prayed about the matter, I intend to hold an Apostolic Visitation of certain dioceses in Ireland, as well as seminaries and religious congregations. Arrangements for the Visitation, which is intended to assist the local Church on her path of renewal, will be made in cooperation with the competent offices of the Roman Curia and the Irish Episcopal Conference. The details will be announced in due course.

    I also propose that a nationwide Mission be held for all bishops, priests and religious. It is my hope that, by drawing on the expertise of experienced preachers and retreat-givers from Ireland and from elsewhere, and by exploring anew the conciliar documents, the liturgical rites of ordination and profession, and recent pontifical teaching, you will come to a more profound appreciation of your respective vocations, so as to rediscover the roots of your faith in Jesus Christ and to drink deeply from the springs of living water that he offers you through his Church.

    In this Year for Priests, I commend to you most particularly the figure of Saint John Mary Vianney, who had such a rich understanding of the mystery of the priesthood. "The priest", he wrote, "holds the key to the treasures of heaven: it is he who opens the door: he is the steward of the good Lord; the administrator of his goods." The Curé d’Ars understood well how greatly blessed a community is when served by a good and holy priest: "A good shepherd, a pastor after God’s heart, is the greatest treasure which the good Lord can grant to a parish, and one of the most precious gifts of divine mercy." Through the intercession of Saint John Mary Vianney, may the priesthood in Ireland be revitalized, and may the whole Church in Ireland grow in appreciation for the great gift of the priestly ministry.

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    only had a quick read but the word sorry was not mentioned as far as i know.. espically in the section to the abused not a mention of sorry... just more listening and believing in god. What a farce, personally i hope their is a god but no one on this living earth should go through what all of the abused went through and then be told to forget about it and still believe. The pope almost suggests that this living world is of secondary importance.. and in my opinion this is rubbish. I sincerely hope it helps those that look for recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage/Turnip View Post
    only had a quick read but the word sorry was not mentioned as far as i know.. espically in the section to the abused not a mention of sorry..
    How did you miss this?

    "6. To the victims of abuse and their families
    You have suffered grievously and I am truly sorry. I know that
    nothing can undo the wrong you have endured. Your trust has been
    betrayed and your dignity has been violated. Many of you found that, when
    you were courageous enough to speak of what happened to you, no one
    would listen. Those of you who were abused in residential institutions must
    have felt that there was no escape from your sufferings. It is
    understandable that you find it hard to forgive or be reconciled with the
    Church.

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    They should be run out of Ireland.

    Theyre only sorry their cover ups didnt have the lasting effect they wanted.

    A German cleric resigned because she was slightly over the limit when the German police breathilised her.
    The media was sympathetic, she wasnt in an accident and was under no pressure to resign.

    She stated she had no moral authority to continue in her role and resined.

    In Ireland people who stood by while peado's raped children, believe they should keep their job and those who covered it up and tolerated it refuse to appolagise,until ofcourse they see no way out of the situation.

    A reluctant appolagy is worthless, people have been paid to keep quiet.

    When will people here ge some balls, I hope these curches are emptied and people set up their own church detached from Rome.

    If these priests were allowed normal human sexual rights then the scale of this wouldnt have happened.
    If they could marry have partners and have kids of their own then they woudnt turn out so messed up.

    Forcing people to be A-sexual is unhealthy and a large contributing factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage/Turnip View Post
    only had a quick read but the word sorry was not mentioned as far as i know.. espically in the section to the abused not a mention of sorry... just more listening and believing in god. What a farce, personally i hope their is a god but no one on this living earth should go through what all of the abused went through and then be told to forget about it and still believe. The pope almost suggests that this living world is of secondary importance.. and in my opinion this is rubbish. I sincerely hope it helps those that look for recognition.
    Did you really read the letter at all? He addresses several groups directly, the first of which (rightly) are the victims of abuse and their families and the first thing he says to them is: "you have suffered grievously and I am truly sorry. I know that nothing can undo the wrong you have endured".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage/Turnip View Post
    only had a quick read but the word sorry was not mentioned as far as i know.. espically in the section to the abused not a mention of sorry...
    6. To the victims of abuse and their families
    You have suffered grievously and I am truly sorry. I know that
    nothing can undo the wrong you have endured. Your trust has been
    betrayed and your dignity has been violated.
    "Th' whole worl's in a terrible state o' chassis" - Juno and the Paycock

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    Message to the bishops:

    It is imperative that the child safety norms of the Church in Ireland be continually revised and updated and that they be applied fully and impartially in conformity with canon law.
    Haven't seen a mention of civil law.

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