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Thread: Neo Liberal Approach fails in France...will it fail across Europe (even in Ireland)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    So why did they vote for him then?
    The French voted because at the time they thought he would change France for the better,they obviously copped on that he is a big disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    The greeks are irrational overspenders and don't deserve respect.
    Our govt of Zanu-FF were irrational overspenders during the so-called
    Celtic Tiger boom and they do not deserve respect.Yes the neoliberal
    Thatcherite model has failed here too.It just the Greeks unlike my compatriots
    are willing to something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    Our govt of Zanu-FF were irrational overspenders during the so-called
    Celtic Tiger boom and they do not deserve respect.Yes the neoliberal
    Thatcherite model has failed here too.It just the Greeks unlike my compatriots
    are willing to something about it.
    You think this government was Thatcherite? how is more than doubling the old age pension, dole, and probably more than doubling expenditure on our health service Thatcherite? They spend 55bn a year on services?.

    Silly comment by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    The French voted because at the time they thought he would change France for the better,they obviously copped on that he is a big disappointment.
    He didn't pretend to be a leftie. French people voted for a more centralist leadership, which would probably be considered right wing by many French people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    You think this government was Thatcherite? how is more than doubling the old age pension, dole, and probably more than doubling expenditure on our health service Thatcherite? They spend 55bn a year on services?.

    Silly comment by you.
    Now the govt are cutting back on the dole,health services and other services
    while bailing out their rich banker buddies with taxpayers money.My point is
    that Zanu-FF had squandered the money during the so-called boom and had
    not saved the money for tougher times to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    Now the govt are cutting back on the dole,health services and other services
    while bailing out their rich banker buddies with taxpayers money.My point is
    that Zanu-FF had squandered the money during the so-called boom and had
    not saved the money for tougher times to come.
    And I think its fair to say that those in or close to Fianna Fáil i.e. Ministers and theirr famalies,Senior Civil Servants,Members of the Board of Banks,members of sundry other boards & quangos and so. Un warrented eeward, jobbery and nepotism are hall marks of neo liberalism.Its main thrust being that the small person pays for the excesses of the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    And I think its fair to say that those in or close to Fianna Fáil i.e. Ministers and theirr famalies,Senior Civil Servants,Members of the Board of Banks,members of sundry other boards & quangos and so. Un warrented eeward, jobbery and nepotism are hall marks of neo liberalism.Its main thrust being that the small person pays for the excesses of the rich.
    Very true indeed,you are certainly on the mark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    RTÉ News: Sarkozy facing regional election wipeout

    A "crushing defeat" for Centre -Right is predicted in regional elections.

    Government party(s) low in the polls in UK and other EU countries, they did disastrously in Irish local elections.

    Even in Germany voters are rejecting the centre right.
    Poll: Merkel's party slipping before German state election that could curb government power - Worldnews.com

    Are the days of the oligarchy over for the present? Is there a marked swing to the left across Europe as business and its handymen the bankers and "pro-business" politicians jump in the life rafts at the expense the poor, the sick, the needy and the disabled who may sink or swim as far as thet are concerned? And could left wing Irish parties and individuals benefit from this?
    Voters always express mid-term dissatisfaction. This has nothing to do with the Left Right divide, which is meaningless to the vast majority of voters.

    Why don't you email a few Greek trade unionists and ask them what they think of their ostensibly Socialist Government?
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    Its main thrust being that the small person pays for the excesses of the rich.
    Well, that certainly doesn't apply in Ireland.

    Do you know what the marginal tax rate on earnings above €100k is?

    56%

    Do you know what the marginal tax rate on earnings below €20k is?

    5-7%
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    Now the govt are cutting back on the dole,health services and other services
    while bailing out their rich banker buddies with taxpayers money.My point is
    that Zanu-FF had squandered the money during the so-called boom and had
    not saved the money for tougher times to come.
    No, your point was that FF are Thatcherite, which is clearly bull and now you're back-peddling.

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