Point of pride: Irish far right is insignificant.

[Dr Pat]

I think it's quite positive though that Irish symbols are generally held as positive things i.e. the flag, the green colour, the shamrocks, the harps etc. We kinda use them in a 'fun' and inclusive way. If you want to embrace being Irish, in general I think most Irish people are very welcoming.

The culture is very open, and it's quite attractive and positive. This contrasts sharply with countries like England, Spain or France where immigrant groups often have terrible histories of oppression / colonialism. This means that they have a very odd relationship with the place they live. Our relationship with the people who live here is pretty neutral, untainted and I think we have a good understanding of what it's like to have to emigrate. We also tend to have been the underdogs ourselves historically, so in general I think we've a much more understanding approach to people from other places i.e. we tend not to have a superiority complex and just take people at face value.

A friend of mine from France was pretty amazed to see how immigrant groups were out in Cork City on Patrick's day marching in the parade and showing off their own ethnic identity while absolutely reveling in being Irish and being part of the whole thing. There was nothing particularly PC or artificial about it either. The parade isn't that well organised

It's a good sign and it's something that I think some commentators can overlook by focusing on the very small minority of negative issues while ignoring the overall experience which is very positive.

Of course there are problems, but I just think that, in general, Ireland's got its head screwed-on when it comes to almost all of these issues.

If we could only figure out how to manage banks and deal with political corruption, we'd be sorted!!

That is all fine and dandy and you paint a lovely picture.

However in times of economic constraints, sorry but jobs for Irish workers come first. As for the multiculturalisation of Ireland without any coherent debate on it in the Dail, it seems that the D4 types and their ilk love it as they can either exploit immigrant labour or get fat fees at taxpayers expense for promoting it or else lawyering largely bogus asylum claims on behalf of economic migrants. As for the left, they howl "racism" at the moon if it happens to cast a shadow over their "one world" utopia.

I agree though that overall Irish people are fairly relaxed about this. There eventually comes, as with everything in life, a time of reckoning with all unplanned or ill conceived policies and I believe that eventually a significant right wing party will emerge. It just needs a charismatic individual around which to coalesce.

[gnasher]

Believe you me there is resentment out there about what has happened.

The problem for out of touch Ivory Tower types like yourself is that you confuse the fact that most resentment of immigration comes from the working class urban dwellers and not from the Right Wing areas like D4 etc

Indeed the fact that you are incapable of understanding that Mass Immigration is a direct result of Right Wing policies being pursued by the FF/PD Government

- in order to drive down the cost of labour and expand the internal consumer market

- shows how ignorant you are of the causes of the greatest internal migration ever seen in Modern Times outside of War and Famine conditions.

Mass Immigration was caused by Right Wing economic policies

- how the hell then can it be 'extreme Right Wing' to oppose it?

Sadly for you, capitalising occasional words doesn't turn bolloc*s into truth. I'd ask you for a source, but what would be the point? We both know you don't have one and that this is just a straight-up lie.

[former wesleyan]

Believe you me there is resentment out there about what has happened.

The problem for out of touch Ivory Tower types like yourself is that you confuse the fact that most resentment of immigration comes from the working class urban dwellers and not from the Right Wing areas like D4 etc

Indeed the fact that you are incapable of understanding that Mass Immigration is a direct result of Right Wing policies being pursued by the FF/PD Government

- in order to drive down the cost of labour and expand the internal consumer market

- shows how ignorant you are of the causes of the greatest internal migration ever seen in Modern Times outside of War and Famine conditions.

Mass Immigration was caused by Right Wing economic policies

- how the hell then can it be 'extreme Right Wing' to oppose it?

Why do you use Capital Letters for stuff ?

[slx]

That is all fine and dandy and you paint a lovely picture.

However in times of economic constraints, sorry but jobs for Irish workers come first. As for the multiculturalisation of Ireland without any coherent debate on it in the Dail, it seems that the D4 types and their ilk love it as they can either exploit immigrant labour or get fat fees at taxpayers expense for promoting it or else lawyering largely bogus asylum claims on behalf of economic migrants. As for the left, they howl "racism" at the moon if it happens to cast a shadow over their "one world" utopia.

I agree though that overall Irish people are fairly relaxed about this. There eventually comes, as with everything in life, a time of reckoning with all unplanned or ill conceived policies and I believe that eventually a significant right wing party will emerge. It just needs a charismatic individual around which to coalesce.

Again, I don't really see much evidence of that happening. I'm not just being politically correct or seeing things through rose tinted glasses. The anger is being expressed towards the banksters and I think it will be increasingly unleashed towards Fianna Fail.

It's blatantly obvious that the state is pouring resources into the failed and corrupt banks, it's not pouring resources into immigrants, that's a very minor side issue.

I think what is more likely to happen here if there is social unrest is that it will be much more "us" (the people) vs "them" (the banksters / landlord / developers).

We've been here before (being screwed over by property owners) and the memories are deep and cultural.

I honestly don't think these idiots running the country know what they're stirring up.

[Catalpa]

Why do you use Capital Letters for stuff ?

Because I love Das Capitals!

[former wesleyan]

Because I love Das Capitals!

You post like you like MEIN KAMPF

[PAD1OH]

That is all fine and dandy and you paint a lovely picture.

I think you need to start being more explicit about your vision for Ireland - list what actions you would like to see being taken. no more hackneyed cliches please.

and what is it about right wing parties requiring "charismatic" individuals? is it that they depend on these indiviuduals to hide the scum & dolts of the party & membership?

e.g. UKIP is still portrayed as being led by its ex leader. nobody knows the current leader is.

PVV form around Wilders and his ego.

etc

[beamish2010]

Of the course they are.

[SPN]

do we even have an extreme/far right in Ireland?

Ganley has been quiet for a while alright, but you'd never know when he and his Storm Troopers might make another attempt to get elected.

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[gnasher]

Because I love Das Capitals!

Yeah, I'm looking forward to watching you Run for the Hills rather than Back up your Ridiculous Lie above. It's like your claim- made over a dozen times- that Ethnic Cleansing is Happening in Blanchardstown; you think by repeating a lie often enough, some people will Believe it. Shamefully dishonest Behaviour.