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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Since he's a chief fire officer and you're someone I know nothing about posting on a website, I'm going to go with his analysis.

    Baron

    I am gutted by your comment, however as you are only someone I know nothing about posting on a website I am quite happy to rely on my own knowledge.

    As part of an almost standard tool kit for dealing with RTA incidents, almost all fire tenders will carry a battery operated reciprocating saw and a large petrol driven con saw with a selection of blade types, more than adaquate for most incidents of this type. Oh and a portable searchlight on a 90 metre reel and various other methods of lighting an accident scene.

    My point still stands, the officer in charge on the day obviously decided that this particular incident could have been helped with access to a chainsaw, he phoned the local authority and was told that it was past office hours and they would decline to help. The fire officer then done his job and the man was extracted.

    So was this a case of petty work to rule by that local authority official.
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
    Baron

    I am gutted by your comment, however as you are only someone I know nothing about posting on a website I am quite happy to rely on my own knowledge.

    As part of an almost standard tool kit for dealing with RTA incidents, almost all fire tenders will carry a battery operated reciprocating saw and a large petrol driven con saw with a selection of blade types, more than adaquate for most incidents of this type. Oh and a portable searchlight on a 90 metre reel and various other methods of lighting an accident scene.

    My point still stands, the officer in charge on the day obviously decided that this particular incident could have been helped with access to a chainsaw, he phoned the local authority and was told that it was past office hours and they would decline to help. The fire officer then done his job and the man was extracted.

    So was this a case of petty work to rule by that local authority official.
    You can believe what you will. Given your consistent anti PS posting I'm not at all surprised at your conclusion. I'll stick with the facts and the expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    You can believe what you will. Given your consistent anti PS posting I'm not at all surprised at your conclusion. I'll stick with the facts and the expert.
    My consistent what, I am most definitely not an anti PS poster, I am most definitely an anti stupid union leaders poster, I have gone as far as to call them pimps, because that is how they behave, they pimp the workers rights in return for an obscene salary and a place on a quango in order to get some walking around money.

    And at this particular time they are making promises to their members that cannot possibly deliver unless they bankrupt the country and take the food out of the mouths of the old, the sick and the jobless.

    So was it work to rule decision
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
    My consistent what, I am most definitely not an anti PS poster, I am most definitely an anti stupid union leaders poster, I have gone as far as to call them pimps, because that is how they behave, they pimp the workers rights in return for an obscene salary and a place on a quango in order to get some walking around money.

    And at this particular time they are making promises to their members that cannot possibly deliver unless they bankrupt the country and take the food out of the mouths of the old, the sick and the jobless.

    So was it work to rule decision
    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    I rest my case.
    On what do you rest your case, it must be heavy
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey321 View Post
    A Field Marshal who thinks it takes "nerve" to use a bloody power tool should be demoted.

    Tea lady perhaps
    To call chainsaws power tools is superficial.

    Most power tools do not endanger life if misused or if a malfunction occurs.

    If the powersaw chain is improperly maintained and of cheap manufacture it can snap & come off and heads have been split badly by such!

    Clearly you know nothing about chainsaws and even more clearly you have not seen serious tissue damage such as a half sawn limbs as I have had the misfortune to witness and tend some years ago after an accident.

    So I repeat it does take a certain amount of "nerve" to use a motorized powerful chain saw in view of the serious life threatening consequences of a minor error of judgement or chain malfunction.

    If you chose not to value your own limbs and parts thats your own affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    To call chainsaws power tools is superficial.

    Most power tools do not endanger life if misused or if a malfunction occurs.

    If the powersaw chain is improperly maintained and of cheap manufacture it can snap & come off and heads have been split badly by such!

    Clearly you know nothing about chainsaws and even more clearly you have not seen serious tissue damage such as a half sawn limbs as I have had the misfortune to witness and tend some years ago after an accident.

    So I repeat it does take a certain amount of "nerve" to use a motorized powerful chain saw in view of the serious life threatening consequences of a minor error of judgement or chain malfunction.

    If you chose not to value your own limbs and parts thats your own affair.
    I propose we vote The Field Marshall pussie of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    To call chainsaws power tools is superficial.

    Most power tools do not endanger life if misused or if a malfunction occurs.

    If the powersaw chain is improperly maintained and of cheap manufacture it can snap & come off and heads have been split badly by such!

    Clearly you know nothing about chainsaws and even more clearly you have not seen serious tissue damage such as a half sawn limbs as I have had the misfortune to witness and tend some years ago after an accident.

    So I repeat it does take a certain amount of "nerve" to use a motorized powerful chain saw in view of the serious life threatening consequences of a minor error of judgement or chain malfunction.

    If you chose not to value your own limbs and parts thats your own affair.

    So is it a chainsaw ot a powersaw ?

    It it a power tool or not ?

    How would you rate these tools for danger ?

    Consaw ? Have you ever seen a diamond blade snap or shatter ? Have you ever felt the weight and vibration fo a consaw in use ?

    Angle grinder ? Ever seen a cutting disk or worse a grinding disk shatter ?


    If you ever saw the inside of my workshop you would probably run away.

    I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that you have never even handled a chainsaw let alone used one. For that matter i doubt you have used a con-saw or angle grinder. Probably not even a power drill.

    See that's the difference between pontificating and actually knowing what you are talking about.

    If it makes you feel any better I put a brand new (not cheap) chain on my main chainsaw last night as well as giving it a service. Last weekend I dropped the deck on my lawn mower and changed the blades, belts and gave it a service I also changed the blades on my brushcutter. Its almost that time of year again time....

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