Frank Fahey - Lost at Sea

[Fraxinus_]

With all due respect, that is passing the buck.

By all means keep the pressure up on these charlatans but let us look into our own souls when it comes to a solution.

Ethics and morality in Ireland among the whole population are at a very low ebb.
Grab all you can for yourself is the order of the day.

Well and good if, in doing so, you can steal something off the Brits.

That would turn you from being merely a greedy oaf into something approaching a national saint.

Almost every aspect of our community including our main sports organizations are riddled with equivocation and moral ambiguity.

To turn this country around we will have to go through a very long night of the soul.

I see no sign of any leader, either religious or temporal, emerging to address this issue.

I know what you're saying. Ideally we should all come to the realisation, well those that haven't already, that short term gain and backhanders only lead to the downfall of the country. That once we get our moral compass in check everything else will follow.
The problem is how does one (a) preach that gospel, (b) get people to practice it.
Changing the voting system won't treat the root causes but it might help us to move away from the parish-pump mentality when it comes to politics

[W..R.H]

Interesting to note that back in 2006 Trevor Sargent raised this issue,

"Sargent also maintained that Fahey had given 75% of the total State compensation for fisheries vessels lost at sea to two constituents (of Fahey's) and giving half of Ireland's mackerel quota to one boat, the Atlantic Dawn." Link here
Irish Examiner - 2006/06/29: Sargent to Taoiseach: Fire Frank Fahey

Fahey failed to secure the necessary 75% committee vote to censure Sargent and his failure embarrassed and annoyed his Fianna Fáil colleagues.

This according to a wikipedia article.

[Malbekh]

Things are heating up nicely on the debate with the Ombudsman's report in both the Dail and the Seanad.

The transcripts of the Dail on the 4th of February debate are here

And the Seanad debate from the 18th February are here

So far so good. What isn't widely known is that things appear to have taken a turn for the worst yesterday. According to a source Frank Fahy approached Ferris in the corridors of Leinster House and called him 'a f***ing b***ox' and then preceded to say that he would 'get' him, to which Ferris replied 'you can try' or words to that effect.

FG deputy Paul Connaughton then apparently had to come between them before it erupted into fisticuffs.

The speculation is that Fahy is fuming after allegations from Ferris in the Dáil debate where he opined....

Deputy Fahey made a complaint to the Committee on Procedures and Privileges about what had been said about him but he failed to secure the necessary support to censure Deputy Sargent who, in December 2006, made a complaint to the Standards in Public Office Commission specifically citing the Lost at Sea scheme as one of the reasons to investigate the then Minister, along with his involvement in the Corrib gas pipeline and the allocation of 14,000 tonnes in quota to the Atlantic Dawn. This trawler, using a national asset, is currently fishing off the west coast under the name of a Dutch consortium.

Upon interjection from An Ceann Comhairle he reiterated:

I am stating a fact that the Atlantic Dawn, which was given 14,000 tonnes in quota, is currently fishing off the west coast. I have been reliably informed about this and it is using a national asset, its tonnage, to procure Irish fish for a Dutch consortium.

Harsh words indeed, but enough to nearly come to blows for?

I'd like to take away the 'allegedly' element of the confrontation and I'm looking for another independent source to verify what happened.

After that, we'll go over the dealings with the Atlantic Dawn.....

[Bobert]

That's not what happened, according to my source. Fahey merely spoke to Ferris in the corridors about it as he was unhappy with the way Ferris handled it. No expletives were hurled let alone punches. Total exaggeration by the source.

[hammer]

Lost on Land as well.

His performance with MOL was pathetic.

He is a pathetic excuse for a TD.

[bored and fussy]

funny that not much at all about enright and mchugh why do they not have to explain,
funny old world Enda kenny must not have heard about this.

[mmrebel]

funny that not much at all about enright and mchugh why do they not have to explain,
funny old world Enda kenny must not have heard about this.

What you talking about now ?Mrs Mc stop trolling plz Do try to stay on topic or start a different thread.

[mmrebel]

The Irish Times reported in 2006, that in 1994, when Frank Fahey was a Senator, on a modest salary of £19,486 (€24,747), he became involved in establishing a hair and beauty salon business in Moscow involving an investment of over £200,000 (€254,000).[11][12]
Fahey has assembled a very extensive property portfolio. Some are registered in his own name while others are held in partnership with relatives of associates These are located in his native Galway city and county, County Clare, Limerick, Dublin, France, Belgium, Portugal, the United States and Dubai. Fahey also owns or has shares in, shops and development land as well as six houses and 10 apartments in Ireland.
Fahey owns a number of apartments in the centre of Brussels in partnership with suspended INBS manager Noel Harrington and Limerick developer Ger Clohessy. Mr Clohessy is a large Limerick property developer whose name is linked to an internal Irish Nationwide Building Society investigation into the handling of accounts at its Limerick branch,while Mr Harrington is the manager of an INBS branch in Limerick.[13]
He caused controversy in Galway after speaking at a seminar organised by 'Remax Auctioneers' held at the radison Hotel in January 2009. He spoke at the conference urging first time buyers to "buy now as houses prices were as low as they would go". House prices in Galway have seen a 20%-30% drop in the previous 18 months with little sign of the market stabilising. A number of people have questioned his judgement in the matter, as the seminar was organised by Remax Auctioneers and speakers were drawn from what could be seen as the "vested interests" in the property market in Galway. As of 2009, there were many people with negative equity on their properties, who had bought within the previous five years. A number of people have questioned the wisdom of the Fianna fail TD speaking at the seminar encouraging young people to buy now, despite many economists predicting further price drops in the housing market up to 2011 and 2012 and further exposing people to the danger of negative equity on their properties. Also speaking at the seminar was Bank of Ireland manager Pat Fleming, solicitors from Bell and Carroll and mortgage providers 'Simply mortgages'.[7][14]
Fahey was accused of and then denied saying that he had "no involvement" in the hairdressing salon. Nor had never made a secret of being involved, he said, and had travelled to Moscow "as an ordinary citizen to support the investors including my wife who were attempting to set up a hair salon there". He claimed that "the whole thing was part of a regional political campaign by a number of individuals to do damage to my integrity, character and good name".[15]

Frank Fahey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Malbekh]

That's not what happened, according to my source. Fahey merely spoke to Ferris in the corridors about it as he was unhappy with the way Ferris handled it. No expletives were hurled let alone punches. Total exaggeration by the source.

Thanks Bobert, that makes it 1-1 although we know that there were no fisticuffs. So unless anyone else has anything to add, we're not going anywhere with this.

Shame.

[The_Big_Fellow]

Ahh ffs. I saw the title and thought he was actually lost at sea.

The post is very interesting, disappointing but interesting.