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    Violence in relationships occurs when the relationship should have ended long ago but both partners are too needy and too cowardly to just walk away from each other.

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    Ok today is the International day to eliminate violence against women; but everything is hunky
    dory in Ireland

    No need to talk no more : Press Release | Say NO - UNiTE

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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    Ok today is the International day to eliminate violence against women; but everything is hunky
    dory in Ireland

    No need to talk no more : Press Release | Say NO - UNiTE
    Link doesn't work. What do yo mean "Today is the International day to eliminate violence against women"? Like world breast cancer day? I ask because the link doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    I would think the NGOs would have those figures sailor, this thread was started last night
    and drew nasty trolls who really wanted to reduce serious global issues to their level of
    idiocy.

    So are you talking about Irish men and domestic violence or about the issues that have
    been raised at the link in the OP/throughout the threads/in my last post ??

    Parliaments take action on violence against women | Say NO - UNiTE

    I have no problem with yourself,electro,belvoboy opening up threads on Irish men
    and domestic violence but that is not what this thread is about:

    Around The World | Say NO - UNiTE
    I am still not clear as to the objective of the post or how you want us to respond. When I saw it first I assumed it was informational in nature and did not call for a response. If you are asking us to join in the condemnation of violence against women and express support for the group that Coelho refers to then yes and yes.
    I was just wondering what the comparable figure is for men. On a global level the female gender specific violence seems to relate to a significant extent to backward cultural and religious influences. I wondered if the figure in the case of men would be more influenced by involvement in military activities, gang violence, criminality etc.
    I am not suggesting that we just blandly condemn all violence in some meaningless way but if we are to address violence against women specifically then we need to be aware of what violence we are talking about and target campaigns against different aspects of that violence. I am not sure that a single unfocussed campaign will succeed in ending domestic violence in the first world and FGM in the third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    Link doesn't work. What do yo mean "Today is the International day to eliminate violence against women"? Like world breast cancer day? I ask because the link doesn't work.

    feck it, I have to go.

    A quick response today is about awareness raising and the issues are not alone local.

    So I would ask that people look at the OP which two women members denigrated last
    night (due to civil society being too wussy for their self-perceived hard-edged political
    philosophies ) and to take a look at the main sites on VAW which are all marking the
    day on issues such as access to education for girls, enforced teenage marriage, rape,
    FGM, rape as a tool of war and gender representation in governments.

    Anna Politkovskaya assassination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < this might be an
    example btw of of a brave woman whose journalism quite got in the way of plans for
    Chechyna. Thus today I am working on Women writers and violence:

    Politkovskaya.
    Sánchez.
    Ling.
    Lee.
    Riberio.
    and adding in reports from last year : Commission on the Status of Women-Follow-up to Beijing and Beijing + 5

    I'd also recommend IFEX , IPWWChomepage , http://www.isiswomen.org
    Press Freedom Online - Committee to Protect Journalists Reporters Sans Frontičres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I am still not clear as to the objective of the post or how you want us to respond. When I saw it first I assumed it was informational in nature and did not call for a response. If you are asking us to join in the condemnation of violence against women and express support for the group that Coelho refers to then yes and yes.
    I was just wondering what the comparable figure is for men. On a global level the female gender specific violence seems to relate to a significant extent to backward cultural and religious influences. I wondered if the figure in the case of men would be more influenced by involvement in military activities, gang violence, criminality etc.
    I am not suggesting that we just blandly condemn all violence in some meaningless way but if we are to address violence against women specifically then we need to be aware of what violence we are talking about and target campaigns against different aspects of that violence. I am not sure that a single unfocussed campaign will succeed in ending domestic violence in the first world and FGM in the third.
    As far as I know domestic violence is pervasive throughout virtually all cultures, occurring across all social classes, all ethnic groups, and all age groups. On my street it's the 70 year old American engineer who gives his wife a black eye. On yours it could be the 40 year old Irish bank manager or civil servant or fork lift driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    Anna Politkovskaya assassination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < this might be an
    example btw of of a brave woman whose journalism quite got in the way of plans for
    Chechyna.
    I don't see what being a woman has to do with this. If she had been male and written the exact same stories , she would still have experienced murderous violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fionnmccool View Post
    I don't see what being a woman has to do with this. If she had been male and written the exact same stories , she would still have experienced murderous violence.
    At the hands of the Russian authorities no less

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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    As far as I know domestic violence is pervasive throughout virtually all cultures, occurring across all social classes, all ethnic groups, and all age groups. On my street it's the 70 year old American engineer who gives his wife a black eye. On yours it could be the 40 year old Irish bank manager or civil servant or fork lift driver.
    Or it could be my missus giving me a dig - in fact the only non-verbal abuse I have encountered in almost 35 years of marriage was once when she lashed out and gave me a good hard slap in the face. She admitted later that I had infuriated her - something Femme also told me recently - must be some strange effect I have on women

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