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    Biffo: JOD does not have to repay

    Cowen bid to prop up O?Donoghue in the chair was simply grotesque | Irish Examiner

    Cowen: O?Donoghue need not repay expenses | Irish Examiner


    Good man, Biffo, just because the expenses were passed and audited does not mean they were correct, all expenses with regard to his missus should be repaid, extravagant meals should be repaid and all expenses around going racing should be repaid.

    Because the Green Party would not give a vote of confidence in JOD, Biffo had to let him go but only after JOD came cap in hand to Gilmore knowing Biffo could not save him.

    There was no point in Biffo meeting other party leaders, Gormless had said no and Biffo did not want to embarrass himself further, but the cost is he will support all the expenses and no repayments, maybe Gormless needs to have another chat with him, a bit louder.

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    The repayment thing was always a non-starter and an excellent indication at the level at which Enda Kenny's intellect operates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanley View Post
    Cowen bid to prop up O?Donoghue in the chair was simply grotesque | Irish Examiner

    Cowen: O?Donoghue need not repay expenses | Irish Examiner


    Good man, Biffo, just because the expenses were passed and audited does not mean they were correct, all expenses with regard to his missus should be repaid, extravagant meals should be repaid and all expenses around going racing should be repaid.

    Because the Green Party would not give a vote of confidence in JOD, Biffo had to let him go but only after JOD came cap in hand to Gilmore knowing Biffo could not save him.

    There was no point in Biffo meeting other party leaders, Gormless had said no and Biffo did not want to embarrass himself further, but the cost is he will support all the expenses and no repayments, maybe Gormless needs to have another chat with him, a bit louder.
    Where did Cowen get the authority to make that statement.?

    People who assist others in doing a wrong are regarded as having aided and abbetted and are equally culpable.

    I did not give John O'Donoghue permission to have his friends driven around the country at taxpayers money-my money.

    His actions should be investigated from a criminal point of view and after an independent police investigation these statements may be then have some relevance

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    Quote Originally Posted by donalmc View Post
    The repayment thing was always a non-starter and an excellent indication at the level at which Enda Kenny's intellect operates.
    The fact that "repayment was a non-sterter" provides a fascinating insight into the septic tank that is Irish politics. A turdfest if ever there was one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donalmc View Post
    The repayment thing was always a non-starter and an excellent indication at the level at which Enda Kenny's intellect operates.

    How do you reckon repayment is a non-starter, he has used and abused the system, just like Biffo's other mate Rody Molloy, both should have to repay.

    Are you saying all Biffo has to say it is within rules and guidelines and that's ok then.

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    Is anyone surprised - seriously - that Biffo stands by the Bull ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
    The fact that "repayment was a non-sterter" provides a fascinating insight into the septic tank that is Irish politics. A turdfest if ever there was one.
    Absolutely true. It's a very different story in Britain.
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    See there's strict legality :
    Expenses being in line with guidelines , receipts provided where needed

    And there's common sense. In most private sector jobs (whatever level you are at ) an unusual expense of much over €100 will likely be examined & maybe queried for business justification. The person doing that type of query needs to be senior to, or on par with the claimant.For the government to say there was no such oversight... is admitting its own expenses were out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perprojustice View Post
    Where did Cowen get the authority to make that statement.?

    People who assist others in doing a wrong are regarded as having aided and abbetted and are equally culpable.

    I did not give John O'Donoghue permission to have his friends driven around the country at taxpayers money-my money.

    His actions should be investigated from a criminal point of view and after an independent police investigation these statements may be then have some relevance
    Exactly, what are the "rules" or laws to do with this type of behaviour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanley View Post
    How do you reckon repayment is a non-starter, he has used and abused the system, just like Biffo's other mate Rody Molloy, both should have to repay.

    Are you saying all Biffo has to say it is within rules and guidelines and that's ok then.
    Because it would be an admission of utter wrongness and would have made his position as CC untenable anyway. After he is no longer CC the issue is over. Despite everything, it was within the rules, that doesn't man it was ok, but it does mean something.

    In an ideal world, of course he should repay, but in an ideal world the likes of JoD would never be in the Dáil in the first place.

    And as regards the UK - they make our guys look like alter boys.

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