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    JOD holding out for a week

    There's been much speculation over why John O'Donoghue is waiting a week before resigning. The touted reason is to put his affairs in order, but speculation of course is that should the Green Party choose to pull out from government this weekend, thus forcing a dissolution before he resigns, he'll be able to be automatically elected.

    Should such a sequence of events unfold, it strikes me that President McAleese could hold out until JOD's resignation is effective, ensuring all seats are contested. That would be quite shrewd, and entirely within her discretion.
    Good riddance.

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    Article 13.2.2. allows the President to veto a Dail dissolution if the Taoiseach requesting it has lost his Dail majority. There will not be an election unless a Taoiseach requests it for a start - and even then she is not bound by the request unless a Dail majority for the Taoiseach exists. The media need to read the Constitution.
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    The President may in his absolute discretion refuse to dissolve Dáil Éireann on the advice of a Taoiseach who has ceased to retain the support of a majority in Dáil Éireann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Article 13.2.2. allows the President to veto a Dail dissolution if the Taoiseach requesting it has lost his Dail majority. There will not be an election unless a Taoiseach requests it for a start - and even then she is not bound by the request unless a Dail majority for the Taoiseach exists. The media need to read the Constitution.
    If the Greens conference fails to ratify the programme for government, Cowan could advise the President to dissolve the Dail before it meets next week. Thus, he would still officially have its confidence.

    It is unlikely that the President would tell him that she thinks he has really lost it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Article 13.2.2. allows the President to veto a Dail dissolution if the Taoiseach requesting it has lost his Dail majority. There will not be an election unless a Taoiseach requests it for a start - and even then she is not bound by the request unless a Dail majority for the Taoiseach exists. The media need to read the Constitution.
    Your point?
    Good riddance.

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    so we need to write to the president and express our concerns over the bulls attempts to pervert the course of justice in that he has been forced to resign but is manipulating the rules of the Dail for his own benefit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ectoraige View Post
    There's been much speculation over why John O'Donoghue is waiting a week before resigning. The touted reason is to put his affairs in order, but speculation of course is that should the Green Party choose to pull out from government this weekend, thus forcing a dissolution before he resigns, he'll be able to be automatically elected.

    Should such a sequence of events unfold, it strikes me that President McAleese could hold out until JOD's resignation is effective, ensuring all seats are contested. That would be quite shrewd, and entirely within her discretion.
    The Green party members only control 6 votes in the Dail, they can't force a dissolution. Even if they do order their agents to withdraw from government, the Dail wont have to be dissolved until after O'Donoghue resigns. Indeed if the Shameless Six wanted to keep some bit of dignity they could wait until he was gone and replaced before pulling out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmhi Gael View Post
    Sounds good. I have a faceboook group with close to 300 members looking for something to fight for.

    Might take it up...

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    A great idea. Time we started taking a pro active stance. The Phoenix have a page three on his lies to the dail. Hope he is shortly shown up for what he really is.

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