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    The Atheists' Creed

    Finding it very hard to pin down any atheist on their beliefs, so here's a summary:

    Nothing exists but natural phenomena.
    Thought is a property or function of matter.
    Death irreversibly and totally terminates individual organic units.
    There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature.
    There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which transcend nature.
    There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which are supernatural.
    Nor can there be.
    Or in Latin to give it the proper magisterial grandeur:

    Praeter res naturales, nihil exstat.
    Cogitatio est proprietas materiae.
    Singula animalia omninoque irrevocabiliter mors terminat.
    Sunt nullae vires, nullae res, nulla entia, quae distant natura, vel extra naturam sunt.
    Sunt nullae vires, nullae res, nulla entia, quae natura superant.
    Sunt nullae vires, nullae res, nulla entia, quae supra naturam sunt.
    Nec fieri possunt.

    From The Irrational Atheist, Vox Day
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    This is actually a pretty good summary, but it’s not going to cover all atheists. It is possible, for example, to believe in supernatural phenomena without believing in God. What you are describing seems to be a more robust philosophy, which might (more or less) be described as “physicalism” by philosophers of mind. I certainly think it would describe the views of many atheists, if not all.

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    Atheists don't have a creed. That's the whole point.

    It's not "I believe in some other stuff", it's "I don't believe".
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    Surely it would be agnostics who don't believe, full stop. Atheists have a belief that there is no God, as well as the corollaries of that belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panopticon View Post
    Surely it would be agnostics who don't believe, full stop. Atheists have a belief that there is no God, as well as the corollaries of that belief.
    It's not a belief to not believe in something, it is the default position. Agnostics are people who are slightly on the hedge, atheists simply do not believe.

    Is an aleprechaunists someone who 'believes there are no leprechauns' or someone who doesn't believe in leprechauns?
    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    It's not a belief to not believe in something, it is the default position. Agnostics are people who are slightly on the hedge, atheists simply do not believe.

    Is an aleprechaunists someone who 'believes there are no leprechauns' or someone who doesn't believe in leprechauns?
    I think it depends on whether or not they’ve heard about leprechauns in the first place…maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factorem View Post
    Finding it very hard to pin down any atheist on their beliefs, so here's a summary:



    Or in Latin to give it the proper magisterial grandeur:
    Great stuff Factorem. Atheists don't have creeds though.

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    i wonder do leprechauns believe in god?

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    We could talk about Assassin's Creed instead. Can't wait for the sequel.

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    factorem just wants to show off the fact he knows latin, go on, be proud, admit it!!
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