The Atheists' Creed

[fergalr]

God that's a grim list of non beliefs. When Dawkins says he goes to Anglican service occassionally to hear the choral hymans... then what's your problem, you moany grump??

Sorry :P I am not a fan.

[cactusflower]

Surely it would be agnostics who don't believe, full stop. Atheists have a belief that there is no God, as well as the corollaries of that belief.

Exactly.

[MrYouGoBoss]

We could talk about Assassin's Creed instead. Can't wait for the sequel.

that game was a load of sh1t, what a let down, runing around doing the same thing over an over, God of War now theres a game

[Mercurial]

that game was a load of sh1t, what a let down, runing around doing the same thing over an over, God of War now theres a game

But if what you're doing over and over again is fun.... Anyway, they seemed to have improved upon things greatly with the sequel.

[Baron von Biffo]

Finding it very hard to pin down any atheist on their beliefs

Hi Factorem, from other posts of yours I imagine you're a Catholic so I can make the whole thing easy for you. An atheist is a person who believes in one less god than you.

[jdaly]

Surely it would be agnostics who don't believe, full stop. Atheists have a belief that there is no God, as well as the corollaries of that belief.

Agnostics hold that the existence or non existence of a god or gods are equally possible or impossible which could be described as fence siting.

[ergo2]

Factorem

Congrats on your knowledge of Latin. Liked both Latin and Greek at school and college, but sadly nearly all forgotten

[Panopticon]

Agnostics hold that the existence or non existence of a god or gods are equally possible or impossible which could be described as fence siting.

I don't know if they necessarily assign equal probabilities to "gods" or "no god". Indeed, if we consider the number of possible gods in the pantheons, we rapidly get into countable-but-infinite space, over which we can't draw probabilities (assuming there are no fractions of gods). Whereas I think in our model, the atheist would assign high probability tending towards 1 to "no god" and the religious would assign high probability tending towards 1 to "X god(s)".

I think "belief" is an appropriate word for atheists because I imagine a reasonable one would believe in God or gods if there was clear evidence for it. From a Bayesian perspective, no evidence either way about God should make us all agnostics due to zero denominator in Bayes' formula. "Fence-sitting" in other words. So deviations from that are statements of belief.

[Hewson]

As long as God believes in me I'll get by.

[Flango]

Exactly.

No, completely wrong. Whether you just don't believe in a god, or hold the position that Gods cannot exist you are an athiest (This is also known as strong athiesm). Someone who was brought up never having heard of any gods would be an athiest.

An agnostic is someone who will not make a statement one way or another on the existence of god.