The Catholic Church is the oracle of God

[MacAvoydgeen]

The following is quoted from the editorial in the current issue of the publication that gets more readership in Irish Republic than any other periodical, namely ALIVE! CATHOLIC MONTHLY NEWSPAPER (goes to 385,000 households).

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Headline: U.S. President debases Christian faith, exalts doubt.

Speaking recently to students at the Catholic university of Notre Dame, President Barack Obama neatly robbed Christian faith of all meaning. "Hold firm to your faith," he told the students, "and allow it to guide you on your journey. But remember too that the ultimate irony of faith is that it necessarily admits doubt."

This is false. A doubting faith is not faith at all. It is simply opinion, uncertainty, indeed unbelief. Obama shifted the meaning of faith from 'knowing' to 'having an opinion'. For the Catholic Church, however, faith is not mere opinion. It is sure and certain knowledge, based on God's word. Christian faith does not admit doubt.... Through faith we know that the Church was founded by Christ and is his body....

"Doubt", Obama said, "should not push us away from our faith." This is nonsense. A doubting faith is an absurdity, another version of the square circle.....

The great John Henry Newman said: "The Church does not allow her children to entertain any doubt of her teaching.... No one can be a Catholic without a simple faith, that what the Church declares in God's name is God's word, and therefore true. A man must simply believe that the Church is the oracle of God."
<endquote>

Since about 95% of Irish Republic people profess to be Catholic believers, and since this quote is from the most widely circulated publication among them, the quote is telling you something about their current state of mind.

BTW, I posted this earlier today at the politics section of BOARDS.IE, and the board moderator soon afterwards locked it out on the grounds that it is insufficiently political. I regard that moderator as mistaken.

[Factorem]

Only having read your quotation, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Seems perfectly reasonable.

I take it you live in a world where there is no such thing as objective Truth seeing as that Alive article has evidently got up your goat?

[odie1kanobe]

Don't feed the troll

[Mr Crowley]

Since about 95% of Irish Republic people profess to be Catholic believers, and since this quote is from the most widely circulated publication among them, the quote is telling you something about their current state of mind.

BTW, I posted this earlier today at the politics section of BOARDS.IE, and the board moderator soon afterwards locked it out on the grounds that it is insufficiently political. I regard that moderator as mistaken.

You are correct on both counts. The moderator is mistaken and you have identified a critical weakness that has been implanted into the Irish societal mindset. It is this conditioned superstition and mind control that discourages independent thought and makes a people more succeptable to oligarchical control.

Ireland is in the state it is because it exchanged imperialist control for an illusion of freedom under corrupt, gombeen oligarchy; often in collusion with the imperialism of the Roman church.

The Irish people need to throw off this yoke of oppression and stand up for themselves and all the other oppressed people of the world; in the face of the oligarchs. The means exist to save this world if the right people set the example.

[Factorem]

You are correct on both counts. The moderator is mistaken and you have identified a critical weakness that has been implanted into the Irish societal mindset. It is this conditioned superstition and mind control that discourages independent thought and makes a people more succeptable to oligarchical control.

Ireland is in the state it is because it exchanged imperialist control for an illusion of freedom under corrupt, gombeen oligarchy; often in collusion with the imperialism of the Roman church.

The Irish people need to throw off this yoke of oppression and stand up for themselves and all the other oppressed people of the world; in the face of the oligarchs. The means exist to save this world if the right people set the example.

Ah yes, sever our Christian heritage and replace it with some yet-to-be-thought-up New Age thinking. Why do people like you wish to continually go against the grain?

[Mr Crowley]

Ah yes, sever our Christian heritage and replace it with some yet-to-be-thought-up New Age thinking. Why do people like you wish to continually go against the grain?

"Christian heritage"?

You mean the construction and maintainence of The Roman church in Ireland, the church that has sided with either the British or the Gombeen against the people of Ireland at every opportunity?

A parasitical institution that not only deprived Irish children of resources, that their parents were conditioned to donate, but even facilitated a centuries long genocide against Irish society through the abuse of children.

A church whose emporer lives in splendour befitting a midieval king whilst it's subjects live in squalour, starve and go without clean water in many nations. Just like they did in Ireland when all the big churches and cathedrals were built.

Of course our "Christian heritage" also includes the other non Roman churches and they too exhert a poisonous hold on those who follow them.

[Ataxia]

Its scary that people can actually think that unthinking unquestioning faith is a virtue.

[Ah Well]

about 95% of Irish Republic people profess to be Catholic believers

Really? I don't think so. Time to go to bed and reflect methinks

[jc_ie]

Wait.

Which God?

[TommyO'Brien]

The following is quoted from the editorial in the current issue of the publication that gets more readership in Irish Republic than any other periodical, namely ALIVE! CATHOLIC MONTHLY NEWSPAPER (goes to 385,000 households).

i. It does not get more "readership" than any other periodical. It gets more delivery. From any of the places I have seen it delivered in, it is delivered and either is used to light the fire, or is binned, in both cases unread.

ii. It claims to be a Catholic newspaper. The Catholic Church disowns it and accepts no responsibility for it and bishops issued orders for it not to be made available in churches. In my local church, the priest routinely seizes and bins the copies of it deposited in the porch by Alive pushers. They then return when they see him leave and put in another bundle, which when he finds he also bins. He has in the last year binned thousands of copies. I have seen very few actually picked up by anyone. But 'Alive' claims the binned thousands of copies are read!

[removing irrelevant waffle from the rest of the original post]

BTW, I posted this earlier today at the politics section of BOARDS.IE, and the board moderator soon afterwards locked it out on the grounds that it is insufficiently political. I regard that moderator as mistaken.

That moderator had common sense.