Why I will never support the English soccer team.

[drkpower]

It would appear to be yourself whos blind and wilfully so in order to make some sort of oooh look at meee.im so dreadfully modern la dee dah point.

Yes, that was the point I was making!!

But on a serious note, I can never understand the anti-English football team attitude from anyone who supports an English team or has a genuine interst in the Premier League - it seems slightly ridiculous to deify Rooney, Scholes and Ferdinand in Utd games while laughing your ass off at their failures (or non-performance in Scholes' case) with their national teams.

Obvioulsy, there is fun to be had in the local rivalry aspect of it, but for many, it seems that the hatred is a lot deeper.

[merle haggard]

Yes, that was the point I was making!!

But on a serious note, I can never understand the anti-English football team attitude from anyone who supports an English team or has a genuine interst in the Premier League - it seems slightly ridiculous to deify Rooney, Scholes and Ferdinand in Utd games while laughing your ass off at their failures (or non-performance in Scholes' case) with their national teams.

Obvioulsy, there is fun to be had in the local rivalry aspect of it, but for many, it seems that the hatred is a lot deeper.

of course its a lot deeper , english influence in this country does go very deep afterall . The issues between our small country and their larger and aggressive one have not been settled regardless of the spin . As we dont lay any claim to their territory and they most certainly do to our country that would appear to be the isue at hand as reagrds our intense delight at seeing them stuffed

[Colonel Kurtz]

did the referee allow it or not ?

Hmmm, I wonder where you are going with this. I train an U'7s side in the NDSL. Should I extrapolate your statement or should I try and help boys face life ( insert 'If' by R.K. here perhaps ).

I agree England should accept the refs decision. I just mention there is a pendulum which will eventually swing the opposite direction no matter how hard you push it.

[toxic avenger]

its not there you go at all . its a colony , its classic colonialism . what the colonials want is neither here nor there . If they want to live under an english flag they should go to england .

The natives there are happy too. I don't believe in telling others what they should do to keep others elsewhere happy. Self-determination is all that matters, it's the lack of self-determination that kept us down under British rule and has the island partitioned. If they determine that they want to all eat their own crap and run around naked chanting to the rabbit-god on their grey and freezing rock-holes then that's their prerogative. The Argentinians have no more right to the Falklands than the Indians do. Quite frankly, I'm not sure why anyone would want to own, let alone live on, such barren nothingness, but they're entitled to decide for themselves.

[drkpower]

of course its a lot deeper , english influence in this country does go very deep afterall . The issues between our small country and their larger and aggressive one have not been settled regardless of the spin . As we dont lay any claim to their territory and they most certainly do to our country that would appear to be the isue at hand as reagrds our intense delight at seeing them stuffed

Well they havent been settled for you clearly.... I dont have any such issues.

But what I am really interested in is the schizophrenic attitude many take to the English national team given the love they have for certain members of it (when they play for their clubs). Of course a similar phenomenon exists within the English themselves where, for example, a Chelsea supporter fackin' hates Rooney from Aug-May but loves the little ginger git in June and July (well, rarely in July....).

[toxic avenger]

of course its a lot deeper , english influence in this country does go very deep afterall . The issues between our small country and their larger and aggressive one have not been settled regardless of the spin . As we dont lay any claim to their territory and they most certainly do to our country that would appear to be the isue at hand as reagrds our intense delight at seeing them stuffed

Like the Establishment in Whitehall, the people with the clout, give a toss about an oik's sport. You'd have a point if it was polo or cricket or some such sh1te. Not all English influence is bad either. I agree about what they have done to Ireland, but the working class English are no more loved by the powers-that-be than anyone in Crossmaglen or the Bogside...

[Colonel Kurtz]

Well they havent been settled for you clearly.... I dont have any such issues.

But what I am really interested in is the schizophrenic attitude many take to the English national team given the love they have for certain members of it (when they play for their clubs). Of course a similar phenomenon exists within the English themselves where, for example, a Chelsea supporter fackin' hates Rooney from Aug-May but loves the little ginger git in June and July (well, rarely in July....).

I've nearly given myself internal injuries trying not to laugh out loud at 'the boys" singing "rebel" songs at the lock-in in the local pub over the years. They don't seem to notice they are wearing AIG / Carlsberg shirts.

Unless their mothers dressed them - there is a schizophrenia.

[Staropramen]

I've nearly given myself internal injuries trying not to laugh out loud at 'the boys" singing "rebel" songs at the lock-in in the local pub over the years. They don't seem to notice they are wearing AIG / Carlsberg shirts.

Unless their mothers dressed them - there is a schizophrenia.

Ah yes, the Irish man who follows the Premier League. What an enigma. Refers to the club, who he has never seen play, as "we".

[merle haggard]

Hmmm, I wonder where you are going with this. I train an U'7s side in the NDSL. Should I extrapolate your statement or should I try and help boys face life ( insert 'If' by R.K. here perhaps ).

I agree England should accept the refs decision. I just mention there is a pendulum which will eventually swing the opposite direction no matter how hard you push it.

i didnt say they should accept the refs decision . My point was that the person responsible for allowing a goal was the referee and not maradonna . Maradonna only hit a ball . It was a referee who decided that was a goal , who turned it into a goal , not maradonna . Maradonnas actions were just human instinct while in immediate face to face physical competition with another player as they both desperately scrambled for a crucial ball , an accident more than design . It was a referee who declared that a goal . The fault lies primarily with him .
I note also that the argentinian fans did not invade the pitch prior to the whistle being blown to ensure their adversaries could not win .

[merle haggard]

I've nearly given myself internal injuries trying not to laugh out loud at 'the boys" singing "rebel" songs at the lock-in in the local pub over the years. They don't seem to notice they are wearing AIG / Carlsberg shirts.

Unless their mothers dressed them - there is a schizophrenia.

i actually dont think its all that funny , just a bit stupid . And i presume youd also prefer almost internal injuries to definite external ones .
Thankfully we dont really get that problem round here , GAA being the only show in town .