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    F.F. hi-jacked our National Anthem

    Question: Why has one political party hi-jacked our national anthem in order to have their own name included right at the start.

    Seo dhibh a cháirde duan Óglaigh / Amhrán na bhFiann / The Soldier's Song

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    “Amhran na bFhiann...."Sinne laochra fail"\"we are heroes of destiny". This is the wording of the original version by the author, Laochra was changed to Fianna...giving Fianna Fail meaning Soldiers of destiny, by the Fianna Fail political party when they came to government early in the birth of the Irish state. - David Menzies.”

    People often ask how has Fianna Fail managed to become so inculcated into the very psyche of Irish life. Well this is just one of the reasons why. I have attended many big matches where you wait for your team to battle for the prize. It is a highly emotional moment for many people. For example being in Croke Park on all-Ireland final day, waiting tensely for the game to start or at a soccer or rugby international. And then Amhran na BhFiann is sang and Fianna Fail instantly becomes associated with everything that is good about Irish life. It has been implanted into our minds at an emotional moment that Ireland and Fianna Fail are inseparable. Is this kind of thing allowed any where else, except in totalitarian regimes? It sends out a very deep signal that in order to be patriotic you have to support FF. There are many other instances of FF manipulation I could cite, such as the blatant bias in our history books many years ago when I was attending national school, or RTE’s “decision” to play funeral music all day on radio and television when Dev died in 1975.
    I, for one, think that in the interest of fairness our anthem should be changed.
    The FF propaganda machine has been in full swing for the best part of a century. Should they be allowed get away with this?
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    There was a time when it was Sinne laochra gael but I understand it was changed when the ffers came into power in 1932. When FG got back in, they changed it back and FF changed it again when they got back in. I, for one, always sing "sinne laochra gael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    Question: Why has one political party hi-jacked our national anthem in order to have their own name included right at the start.
    Because 'Sinne Progressive Democrats' would just sound silly.

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    perhaps 'Sinne Fianna Gael ...' would keep both lots happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simbo67 View Post
    There was a time when it was Sinne laochra gael but I understand it was changed when the ffers came into power in 1932. When FG got back in, they changed it back and FF changed it again when they got back in. I, for one, always sing "sinne laochra gael
    You must get funny looks.
    If i remember the hardline gaeltacht, cumann na bhFiann sang 'Sinne laochra fail'(with a fada). Can you link any support for your theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Question R24U View Post
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    You must get funny looks.
    If i remember the hardline gaeltacht, cumann na bhFiann sang 'Sinne laochra fail'(with a fada). Can you link any support for your theory?
    It's in the link I have given.Just scroll right down to the bottom of the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Question R24U View Post
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    You must get funny looks.
    If i remember the hardline gaeltacht, cumann na bhFiann sang 'Sinne laochra fail'(with a fada). Can you link any support for your theory?
    Afraid not, I must have read it somewhere but it was years ago. I looked into this a fair bit at the time so I am reasonably sure about the "laochra gael" element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Because 'Sinne Progressive Democrats' would just sound silly.
    But "Sinne Greena Fáil" would not.
    We are "they"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    But "Sinne Greena Fáil" would not.
    That's tops Opps, gets my vote.

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    I'd be very disturbed if RTE had played funeral music for Dev in 1972, although not as disturbed as he would have been I suspect.
    "Our revenge will be the slaughter of their children."

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