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Thread: Mary Cullen takes Bronze: will Martin Cullen congratulate her?

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    Watched the High Performance Awards today.
    Shooting, despite winning silver in the world championships, a bushel of gold, silver and bronze medals in world cups and european championships, three quota places in the last three Olympics (highest place: 8th), and having several shooters ranked in the top 20 in the world, just got a 50% funding cut to its high performance programme.

    So a group bringing medals home to Ireland on a regular basis in an Olympic sport get their funding cut, but the Minister gets champagne and leg room on a junket to Texas for Paddys Day.

    Yeah.
    Value for money.
    Uh-huh.

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    How any of these clowns think that this country is big enough to justify flying around is beyond me. They should scrap this immediatley along with flying first/business class.

    Fair play to Mary Cullen.

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    Shame on Martin Cullen, 5,000 for a trip to texas first class. Its a disgrace, he could fly economy class and book a 4 star hotel for 1500-2000 euro. Meanwhile our athletes are getting shafted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennehym View Post
    Martin Cullen has no direct say in Mary Cullen's funding (or at least he isn't supposed to) - that funding comes from the Carding Grant Scheme, which is administered by the Irish Sports Council. If Cullen had kicked in John Treacy's doors and demanded that Mary get more money, we'd be up in arms and rightly so. There's a process, and we should all be treated equally fairly by it.

    That being said, it's utterly true at the moment that the criteria for funding set out in the carding grant scheme have turned it from a mechanism designed to support athletes as they train to get the medals, into a reward scheme which pays them after they get the medals. Which is utterly cart-before-horse.

    But if you're going to be giving someone a kicking over this, can we kick the right person?
    Quote Originally Posted by dennehym View Post
    He3, if the Minister was to give us value for the money he's cost us, he'd have to be able to defecate bricks of refined uranium at will and on demand...
    both great posts dennehym

    i'm sure minister cullen will get around to congratulating her at some stage - shes not a bad looking girl - extra photocall points!

    seriously though - fair play to her, making us very proud

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    ok i just read those posts properly...he is going to Texas for Paddy's Day??
    The minister of ARTS, SPORTS and TOURISM is flying first class to TEXAS?? ...this gets flippin better and better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabella View Post
    ok i just read those posts properly...he is going to Texas for Paddy's Day??
    The minister of ARTS, SPORTS and TOURISM is flying first class to TEXAS?? ...this gets flippin better and better...
    Austin, TX i s apparently quite the cultural oasis doncha know .What baffles me is how Cullen is a minister . I wouldnt trust him with the cutlery .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin View Post
    Austin, TX i s apparently quite the cultural oasis doncha know .What baffles me is how Cullen is a minister . I wouldnt trust him with the cutlery .

    my housemate (who is from texas) just saw my post and looks ready to beat around the head with a hard back book!

    Sorry C...Keep Austin Weird x

    but none the less I don't care what sort of cultural hot bed its meant to be it is its still 5 grand of tax payers money to send that twit over to Texas to talk about stuff he doesn't have a clue about! it would put one in horrid bad humour...

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    Money Matters:
    Today saw the Irish Sports Council announce its funding for the High Performance Awards and the Carding Grants Scheme. These two grant schemes go to the governing body of the sport to run a high performance training and competitive programme, and to the athletes to take part in that programme, respectively. The idea is simple; you want medals, you have to be the best - and if you want to be the best, you have to do certain things, which cost money. So the ISC puts in money and gets out medals. Hurrah.

    And how could this not go well for us? In the last decade or so, Irish shooting has produced a wealth of medals. ISSF shotgun under the ICPSA and the direction of Kevin Kilty, has seen shooters like Derek Burnett, David Malone and Philip Murphy and others all bring home international medals from the acme of shooting competitions. Ireland won the team gold medal in the ISSF World Championships for the Trap Shotgun event in 2002, and in 2007 Philip Murphy took the silver individual medal. There has been a host of gold and silver and bronze medals won in both team and individual events at ISSF World Cup level and at ISSF Continental Championships level, not to mention all the smaller international competitions. Right now there are four ISSF shotgun shooters ranked in the top 100 shooters in the world; only a few months back Derek Burnett was ranked 5th. This is an excellent competitive placing internationally, it’s exactly what the ISC wants to see. So a well-funded programme, right?

    Try a 50% cut in High Performance funding. €60k to the programme, €20k to Philip and Derek and €10k and €3k to two others.

    The inner cynic in me ponders the public image shooting has received in the Irish Times of late, and wonders if maybe the media monitoring unit in the Irish Sports Council is basically creating a control mechanism over the funding of Irish Sport for the Irish Times Sports Editor…

    Look, money does matter. No point pretending otherwise. The average industrial wage in this country is €32k - if you can’t make that while representing your country, then most people aren’t going to prioritise sport. And there are certain things you just cannot do without it - right now, for example, the ICPSA can’t hire its preferred sports psychologist, but are meant to compete at a level where the mental game is 90% of winning. They can’t hire the sports physiotherapist they want, even though we now know we lost a potential medal in athletics to a simple physical ailment one runner had picked up. They can’t hire a dedicated coach, the performance director has to pull double duty even though the logistics is a job of its own (I know this, becuase I have that job in the NTSA and it is not something you can do every third tuesday like getting a haircut, it’s a fulltime thing even with a small squad).

    But the Minister will be spending €5,000 on a first class ticket to Austin, Texas for St.Patrick’s day. That’s nearly two years worth of a Junior grant, for those keeping score.

    And ISSF rifle or pistol shooting? Well, now that the NTSA has left the SSAI, the ISC is saying it shouldn’t recognise us, that suddenly there’s a rule of one NGB to one sport - yet the ICPSA is recognised seperately from the SSAI, the Olympic Judo and Olympic TaeKwonDo governing bodies are recognised seperately from the Martial Arts Federation and there’s no instance of the rule in writing before now. So for now, no support for the NGB. And while the ISC says they’ll look after athletes seperately if the NGB isn’t in place, that won’t happen here because the Juniors are the only ones with achievable criteria for the grant, and their grant is specifically handled through the governing body, whom the ISC won’t talk to; and the SSAI can’t even apply because the criteria say it can only be olympic shooters who apply.

    What a mess.

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