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    I think some people in Ireland over-do this whole " Are we more Brit than the Brits thing".

    We should should look at it the other way round.

    An example I would give is that St Patrick's Day is celebrated up and down Britain by English who are not remotely connected to Ireland. I have Asian/African descendants as friends too in Britain that know the exact date of it, they always go out to drink on it too. Granted its not to celebrate St Pat, but thats not the point.

    St Patrick's Day in England is vastly more popular that their own saint Georges Day.

    So how nobody is saying the English are more Irish than the Irish? Of course, st Pats Day is only one example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trans-Siberian View Post
    If Ryan Tuberty had his way, we would be firmly under control of the Brithish crown. Its West Brits like him who are pushing that pro Brithish agenda here in Ireland
    Not saying that there is anything wrong with been British, just that im not and like been Irish!

    Problem is, your definition of West British is anything that doesn't involve silage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmhi Gael View Post
    You obviously have not been to Britain recently... We are more British then the British at this point


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.R. Haldeman View Post
    Problem is, your definition of West British is anything that doesn't involve silage.
    No, not correct. I would say a west Brit is an Irish person living in Ireland who aspires to be British, by emersing themselves in as much British culture as possible.

    Why dont they just move to Britain and get the education first hand!!

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    At the end of the day national identity is what separates us. Whether you think that is irrational or otherwise doesn't take away that fact. What the OP has talked about, and others have already commented the same, can be applied to many countries.

    Sure you can combine Ireland and Britain into one. Maybe you could do the same with Australia/New Zealand, Belgium/France, Germany/Austria, Flanders/Netherlands, Canada/USA, Ukraine/Russia, the list goes on. You could almost make a Britain/USA case along those lines as well as combining various Latin American countries along language. Most of the above examples are a little and large combo which we in Ireland have with Britain. The larger country's culture will permeate into it's smaller neighbour but never enough for them to consider themselves as being of the same identity.

    In the end something gets in the way of the easy combining of these countries and i'd put it down to some sense of identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trans-Siberian View Post
    No, not correct. I would say a west Brit is an Irish person living in Ireland who aspires to be British, by emersing themselves in as much British culture as possible.

    Why dont they just move to Britain and get the education first hand!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trans-Siberian View Post
    No, not correct. I would say a west Brit is an Irish person living in Ireland who aspires to be British, by emersing themselves in as much British culture as possible.

    Why dont they just move to Britain and get the education first hand!!
    Emersing? Wot dat?English culture has failed to impress itself upon you at least! Cad faoin Gaeilge?

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    I lived in England from 7 years of age, 1949 till 1981.

    You can bet your life there is a vast difference in the two countries.

    You can feel the difference as soon as you step of the plane or boat in Dublin.

    It's generally, a huge sense of relief!!!

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    An amusing observation from a local priest we met on the canvass recently, who was also making the point about all pervasive English culture. Apparently, without fail after every funeral Mass he celebrates someone will say to him “Very nice service Father”, one person even said “Very nice service Minister”, it seems this is what people say to the rector in Coronation St or Eastenders.

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    Ok, rather than just say it feels different, how about we compile an empirical list of differences between England and Ireland, and do likewise between England and France? Maybe we can actual define a less nebulous notion of Irishness?

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