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Thread: National Crisis Planning: Using the Irish Diaspora

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    Re: National Crisis Planning: Using the Irish Diaspora

    [quote=Young Ned]
    Quote Originally Posted by "L.O. Dublin S.C.":r4n0hnfs
    Would you then be supportive of these people being fast tracked to citizenship if they already know or have a good grasp of Irish?
    I assume you're referring to the people mentioned in the first post? Certainly. It's a win for everyone. The individuals get to live in a culture that they obviously respect and honor already, and the state gets citizens with valuable skills, already assimilated. Perhaps, some sort of arrangement could be worked out where in exchange for some sort of fast-tracked citizenship process, they contribute in some way to all the great work being done by the language activists.[/quote:r4n0hnfs]


    Immigrants who learn English are showing no respect for Ireland. After all, English is a vital world language, so knowing it is intrinsically useful. It's not Ireland's language, because it's the common property of USA, New Zealand, UK etc. etc..

    I would therefore agree that an immigrant shows genuine identification with the Irish nation by attempting to learn Irish.

    Unfortunately the fact that almost none do so shows exactly how much they venerate the country they're trying to become a part of.

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    Re: National Crisis Planning: Using the Irish Diaspora

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Ned
    Quote Originally Posted by "L.O. Dublin S.C.":36izdkr2
    Would you then be supportive of these people being fast tracked to citizenship if they already know or have a good grasp of Irish?
    I assume you're referring to the people mentioned in the first post? Certainly. It's a win for everyone. The individuals get to live in a culture that they obviously respect and honor already, and the state gets citizens with valuable skills, already assimilated. Perhaps, some sort of arrangement could be worked out where in exchange for some sort of fast-tracked citizenship process, they contribute in some way to all the great work being done by the language activists.

    Immigrants who learn English are showing no respect for Ireland. After all, English is a vital world language, so knowing it is intrinsically useful. It's not Ireland's language, because it's the common property of USA, New Zealand, UK etc. etc..

    I would therefore agree that an immigrant shows genuine identification with the Irish nation by attempting to learn Irish.

    Unfortunately the fact that almost none do so shows exactly how much they venerate the country they're trying to become a part of.[/quote:36izdkr2]

    But for people who have to go to an embassy to get a visa or citzenship, especially those of Irish ancestry, having the abbility to speak Irish as a means of getting into Ireland could be helpful to both them and the language.
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    Re: National Crisis Planning: Using the Irish Diaspora

    First thing we should do is get this idea known and debated properly in the Dáil.

    These people are the only hope we have of showing that an Alternative form of Immigration on Ancestral Right can work......... they can assimilate, those of course who can identify with ourselves what it means to be an Irishman.

    Catholic or Protestant would be welcome

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