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    Hat tip to Ronnie Drew as the good thief
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    To be honest, the individual that they are sneering, is also Jewish. In fact he is descended from King David, of the Jews, who gave the Jewish people their flag.
    Jesus' Jewishness is usually forgotten/ignored by Christian antisemities. (The ranks of Christian antisemites might include most Christians through the ages to be honest.) Some German Christians argued Jesus was Aryan, not Jewish. Even non-antisemitic Christians would think that Jews who rejected Christianity lost their status as God's special people.

    It may be odd how people reconcile worshiping a Jew with antisemitism, but it is a fact that the passion story has been given an antisemitic interpretation frequently.
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    How many people who are Irish have a problem with this exhibit and yet have no problem with "Father Ted"? Take a second or two to think through the logic at work in such creatures.
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    Maybe the people who decide what "Art" is for " the (Hoi Polloi, An Chosmhuintir ) little people, not Leprechauns" have been too long on the Ganja, Acid or some other mind altering substances and they cannot tell the difference between "their arts from their elbows"
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    It is a crap painting juvenile propaganda.
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    They're an art gallery, why don't they just include in their exhibit the information that the artist was a Nazi and his depiction of Jews should be viewed in that context.

    Museums and art galleries have to deal with problematic figures throughout history the whole time, even small provincial museums like the one I work in, so it shouldn't be beyond the ken of the National Gallery of Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat finger View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Yes Punch magazine had anti-Irish caricatures. Should an exhibition of that material be banned? Absolutely not.
    I understand the argument that in order to inform people about racist imagery, it does need to be displayed - as long as the exhibition does inform people and places the imagery in its full context. I wonder if the NGI exhibition does that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeacefulViking View Post
    Jesus' Jewishness is usually forgotten/ignored by Christian antisemities. (The ranks of Christian antisemites might include most Christians through the ages to be honest.) Some German Christians argued Jesus was Aryan, not Jewish. Even non-antisemitic Christians would think that Jews who rejected Christianity lost their status as God's special people.

    It may be odd how people reconcile worshiping a Jew with antisemitism, but it is a fact that the passion story has been given an antisemitic interpretation frequently.
    I think that you are confusing the racial and the sectarian element of anti-semitism.

    Also Jesus of Nazareth was providing a serious problem to the manner in which certain elements were running religion for the benefit of themselves in terms of both power and money, in his era.

    There is nothing unsual in this tendency towards belief based self-aggrandizement, and the tendency to turn a belief into a racket. Just look at Jimmy Swagart or the Mormon founder Joseph Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    How many people who are Irish have a problem with this exhibit and yet have no problem with "Father Ted"? Take a second or two to think through the logic at work in such creatures.
    We don't have an offense industry like the Jews do, they have it honed down to needlepoint efficiency (backed by huge power) and it works out a great earner for them in every area except their popularity.

    New Labour in Britain did another internal party purge over the Palestine issue last week.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...facebook-group
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