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    Ratio Et Fides Ratio Et Fides is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    You obviously have no idea what it is.
    To say that changes in philosophy, science or ethics which encompass decades, centuries or even millennia, are down to evolution, is pure nonsense.
    There is also such a thing as devolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    Christians

    3,931,892 - 2011
    3,923,138 - 2016

    A fall of 0.2%


    (This was a quick check, so I'm open to correction)
    Indeed,and an important figure it is, although there was a rise in the overall population for the period, evidenced by the rise of 200k in non-religious

    We are then into another question which, I must admit to having overlooked til now. Why is there a re-configuartion amongst the christian community. i.e.: new denominations arriving, whilst catholics fall off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    There is also such a thing as devolution.
    Nobody believes in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    Nobody believes in that.
    Oh they do, I have studied my ain wee folk seriously and have seen a massive degeneration starting in the mid to late 19 century and accelerating rapidly through 20 th century. Devolution in action. Also some Evolian/Guenionian types believe that apes are the descendants of humans who became so scummy that they lost the human condition, I have come across two or three Presbyterians who believe the same and I wouldn't be surprised if such a belief exists at the back of a couple of SSPX chapels.
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    If you can imagine a belief pound to penny it exists in somebody's head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    Nobody believes in that.
    Because it's an entirely different subject. Any connection to this thread is merely due to Humpty Dumpty English.

    sweet christ but some posters will use any opportunity to flaunt their ignorance.
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    My gut feeling is that a lot of al la carte Catholics have simply lost interest in what's on the menu and have no real reason for going back to the café. With, for instance, the dramatic falling off in mass attendance must, by now, have demonstrated to many that the neighbours don't really care what you believe in any more, so that type of social pressure to conform is gone, leaving people free to decide what they do or do not believe for themselves.

    In the long run, it has to be better for the church to end up with a hard core of those who actually believe as their membership; equally, a more diverse range of opinion feeding into how legislation is framed has to be better for the state. Win/win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    Who cares religion is a load of nonsense which should be discarded into the dustbin, thankfully more and more people are starting to see through such nonsense.
    Why do Staters use the word "should" so much? Why do Staters lapse into preaching mode so often and so quickly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenshane4 View Post
    Why do Staters use the word "should" so much? Why do Staters lapse into preaching mode so often and so quickly?
    Because as freeborn citizens of an actual republic, we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenshane4 View Post
    Why do Staters use the word "should" so much? Why do Staters lapse into preaching mode so often and so quickly?
    Opposition is so much easier than proposition. Any monkey can destroy, but it takes intelligence to build.
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