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    Non-Leninist Marxism

    In Ian Adams & R.W Dyson’s book, Fifty Major Political Thinkers, the entry on V.I.
    Lenin states “it was Lenin’s particular interpretations & extensions of Marx’s theory,
    known as Marxist-Leninism that became the official doctrine of the Soviet union as of all subsequent
    Communist regimes”. The article goes on to note Lenin’s key ideas of “democratic centralism” where
    the Communist party controls all social activities (hence the dictatorship found in all Communist countries) and the idea of the “vanguardism”,
    where the Communist Party purports to rule on behalf of the working class.
    Dyson & Adams note Lenin’s interpretations of Marx have challenged
    by elements of the Left since the 1960s.

    With the collapse of the Soviet Union demonstrating the
    failure of the Leninist model, interest has grown in those thinkers who
    have rejected the Leninist model, such as Amadeo Bordiga and Anton
    Pannekoek (often referred to as the “Left Communists” or “Council
    Communists”). Some of the sixties “New Left” leaders, such as
    Guy Debord (the leader of France’s famous Situationist
    Movement) and Maurice Brinton of the British "Solidarity" group described themselves as Left Communists.
    Because of her criticisms of Lenin and Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg
    is regarded as part of the “Left Communist” tradition as well,
    her thought influencing such socialists as René Lefeuvre.

    There’s a review of a book on “Non-Leninist Marxism” by Fintan Lane here:
    http://www.irishsocialist.net/publicati ... rxism.html

    The review is hosted by the Irish Socialist Network, whose member Colm Breathnach
    states the ISN are a “non-Leninist” Marxist group.

    So what do you think? Was the “Marxism” practiced by Lenin a wrong turn, and are the ideas of Left Communists worth thinking about?

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    no
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    Colm Breatnach? that name rings a bell. and no I don't think they are worth persevering with
    "Sometimes the best thing a government can do is simply get out of the way"-Vince Cable

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    communism and socialism died of self inflicted wounds in the early 1990s, and it's not coming back.
    Signed, Universal (LGBT...QRSTUVWXYZ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandar
    Colm Breatnach? that name rings a bell. and no I don't think they are worth persevering with
    He was in the Workers Party - a Stalinist organisation
    "Man is quite insane. He wouldn’t know how to create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen." (Montaigne.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_001
    communism and socialism died of self inflicted wounds in the early 1990s, and it's not coming back.
    Do you know the difference between soviet-communism and any other forms of communism? Or have you, as I suspect, little or no knowledge about the various branches of communism and have just jumped to a lazy conclusion?

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    It's important to point out that just because the Leninist form of socialism (in Russia,
    China, former Yugoslavia & elsewhere) hasn't worked, that doesn't mean we all have
    to accept the economic system advocated by the hyper-capitalists. Will Hutton
    pointed out that in the UK, people who defend the NHS are likened to
    Stalinists by right-wingers like Alan Duncan.

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    In my opinion it wasn't Lenin who corrupted communism but Stalin. Had Stalin not driven Trotsky into exile perhaps the Soviet Union would not have become a failure. It's also worth noting that many communist uprisings across the world failed because of Soviet "military advisers" forcing purges against any Trotskist, anarchist or left-communist members within the ranks of the rebel movements. Lenin's model was open to corruption from the very beginning, especially the centralisation policy, but it was after Lenin's death that Stalin began the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkadder
    It's important to point out that just because the Leninist form of socialism (in Russia,
    China, former Yugoslavia & elsewhere) hasn't worked, that doesn't mean we all have
    to accept the economic system advocated by the hyper-capitalists. Will Hutton
    pointed out that in the UK, people who defend the NHS are likened to
    Stalinists by right-wingers like Alan Duncan.
    DeValera's policies of economic protectionism (including the economic war with Britain) were entirely consistent with Marx's observations about 18th Century Irish economics.

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    Do you know the difference between soviet-communism and any other forms of communism?
    Yes I do, and I know of no branch of socialism or communism that didn't result in disaster, to varying degrees, wherever it was attempted.

    There is a reason it's consigned to the dustbin of history, it has a horrific track record, in every form.
    Signed, Universal (LGBT...QRSTUVWXYZ)

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