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    PO'Neill PO'Neill is offline

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    Colm O'Rourke gets it spot on about the GAA elitism with the GPA, the Sky deal

    Now I can see how people should think this should be in the sports section, this is much broader than the GAA, but what we are seeing is just a further encroachment of the privatization of Irish resources funded by the state. It's not just what's going on in the GAA but has been going on for years in the FAI, has been creeping into Irish Amateur Boxing etc Of course typical of the privatization model, we'll be told it's for the "greater good" "leave it to us we know best" etc but in reality the greater good is the sly boyos in the "blazers" and the middle men benefiting while half a million people are prevented from seeing big matches on Sunday

    We need to take back our games, sure the amateur players who put in thousands of hours in any sport should be supported in anyway and receive the neccessary financial support, but as Colm O'Rourke states "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism." Just remember socialist style millions of euros of citizen's taxes go to the various sporting organisations, it's our money, but in the typical privatization model we have the funding of the infrastructure etc by the state while the blazers and middle men cream off it and then tell us the scenario is defined by the "free market forces" malarky. This can't be good for the future of sport in this country.

    "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism."

    "I am worried about this drift through the elitism with the GPA, the Sky deal which has disenfranchised half a million people from seeing matches on Sunday and all these other ways - the Super 8, which is going to mean very little for 24 counties. They're never going to get an opportunity in Croke Park to play here."

    "So unless the GAA change tack on a lot of fronts, and the All-Ireland senior championship is just one of them, because it's irrelevant now to the vast majority of players and a lot of them are walking away and saying, 'we don't want to play with our county team anymore because there's too much effort for no chance of reward.'"

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    See Rugby league on effect of exclusive tv deals.

    The GAA used to be democratic and respected its neighbours around Croke Park.
    Instead it railroaded a commercial deal for pay tv and went along with the idea of 5 concerts over 4 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    Now I can see how people should think this should be in the sports section, this is much broader than the GAA, but what we are seeing is just a further encroachment of the privatization of Irish resources funded by the state. It's not just what's going on in the GAA but has been going on for years in the FAI, has been creeping into Irish Amateur Boxing etc Of course typical of the privatization model, we'll be told it's for the "greater good" "leave it to us we know best" etc but in reality the greater good is the sly boyos in the "blazers" and the middle men benefiting while half a million people are prevented from seeing big matches on Sunday

    We need to take back our games, sure the amateur players who put in thousands of hours in any sport should be supported in anyway and receive the neccessary financial support, but as Colm O'Rourke states "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism." Just remember socialist style millions of euros of citizen's taxes go to the various sporting organisations, it's our money, but in the typical privatization model we have the funding of the infrastructure etc by the state while the blazers and middle men cream off it and then tell us the scenario is defined by the "free market forces" malarky. This can't be good for the future of sport in this country.

    "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism."

    "I am worried about this drift through the elitism with the GPA, the Sky deal which has disenfranchised half a million people from seeing matches on Sunday and all these other ways - the Super 8, which is going to mean very little for 24 counties. They're never going to get an opportunity in Croke Park to play here."

    "So unless the GAA change tack on a lot of fronts, and the All-Ireland senior championship is just one of them, because it's irrelevant now to the vast majority of players and a lot of them are walking away and saying, 'we don't want to play with our county team anymore because there's too much effort for no chance of reward.'"

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    Unfortunately money talks.

    Sport has been sold out by the custodians of most codes across all sports. Track and field was largely amateur up to the 1980's. Gradually, as more and more control of the sport was ceded by the sport's custodians to the money men, the very nature of the sport changed. Whether that change is better is debatable.

    Rugby Union became fully professional in 1995. In an Irish context the club game which had enjoyed a real insurgence in match attendances in the All Ireland League, started to rapidly diminish as the provincial franchises became the revenue generating enterprise.
    It is really only the die hard supporter who still attends club fixtures. And the relationship between club and province has effectively become broken largely.

    I reckon O'Rourke knows that the custodians of the GAA will come under the same pressures as other sports.
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    GAA talking out of both sides of their mouth. Amateur when it comes to not paying people, professional when it comes to looking for €€€€€.
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    I am getting very fed up of the GAA at the minute.
    The fact that the ladies who make the tea after games, men who do umpire and linesman at matches, the people who cut the pitches in their own time and club players of all ages groups had to miss last weekend quarter finals because they were on sky was disgraceful.
    The GAA better watch itself. The people that are it's backbone might soon let this sky and concert money pay for doing the jobs that they voluntary do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    Now I can see how people should think this should be in the sports section, this is much broader than the GAA, but what we are seeing is just a further encroachment of the privatization of Irish resources funded by the state. It's not just what's going on in the GAA but has been going on for years in the FAI, has been creeping into Irish Amateur Boxing etc Of course typical of the privatization model, we'll be told it's for the "greater good" "leave it to us we know best" etc but in reality the greater good is the sly boyos in the "blazers" and the middle men benefiting while half a million people are prevented from seeing big matches on Sunday

    We need to take back our games, sure the amateur players who put in thousands of hours in any sport should be supported in anyway and receive the neccessary financial support, but as Colm O'Rourke states "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism." Just remember socialist style millions of euros of citizen's taxes go to the various sporting organisations, it's our money, but in the typical privatization model we have the funding of the infrastructure etc by the state while the blazers and middle men cream off it and then tell us the scenario is defined by the "free market forces" malarky. This can't be good for the future of sport in this country.

    "My idea of the GAA is that the GAA should rail against this capitalism concept. We should have a form of socialism."

    "I am worried about this drift through the elitism with the GPA, the Sky deal which has disenfranchised half a million people from seeing matches on Sunday and all these other ways - the Super 8, which is going to mean very little for 24 counties. They're never going to get an opportunity in Croke Park to play here."

    "So unless the GAA change tack on a lot of fronts, and the All-Ireland senior championship is just one of them, because it's irrelevant now to the vast majority of players and a lot of them are walking away and saying, 'we don't want to play with our county team anymore because there's too much effort for no chance of reward.'"

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    I heard O'Rourke saying that yesterday--on foot of the humiliating wipe-out of Roscommon by Mayo.

    He also commented on the huge gap between the four top teams and the rest.

    But, (and forgive me for not addressing your other points, I'm not qualified)-isn't competitive sport all about "elitism" really?

    Competitive sport follows the "capitalist model" of winner takes all, and the devil take the hindmost.

    If you're not good enough or sharp enough or hungry enough, you'll get wiped off the face of the earth by the big boys.

    As the poor Rossies found out yesterday.
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    The sky deal should be a wake-up call for the GAA authorities. It was purely about money and nothing else. And that is not what the organisation has ever been primarily about. I have elderly relatives who gave their entire lives to the GAA, from under-age playing to voluntary work as long as they could. Now , they're being told to go to the pub if they want to watch certain intercounty games.
    Time for the grassroots to make its voice heard.
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    Commercialism is sport is not always a bad thing, though it goes slightly mad when the buying out of a contract cost three Pairc Ui Chaoimh refurbishments. The Sky TV exlusive deal is a bad one with Cats v Waterford and Dublin v Monaghan being victims already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    The sky deal should be a wake-up call for the GAA authorities. It was purely about money and nothing else. And that is not what the organisation has ever been primarily about. I have elderly relatives who gave their entire lives to the GAA, from under-age playing to voluntary work as long as they could. Now , they're being told to go to the pub if they want to watch certain intercounty games.
    Time for the grassroots to make its voice heard.
    It will be interesting to see if this idea takes hold with the GAA support base.

    I think the penny has begun to drop with some who subscribe to SKY Sports that it is they who are funding the exorbitant salaries enjoyed by EPL soccer players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    See Rugby league on effect of exclusive tv deals.

    The GAA used to be democratic and respected its neighbours around Croke Park.
    Instead it railroaded a commercial deal for pay tv and went along with the idea of 5 concerts over 4 days.
    The neighbours around croke park, it it?
    Who gives a feck what they think!
    When was the last time the neighbours of any English league club had their representative association on national
    radio complaining and looking for freebies?
    It's too much attention and mollycoddling, they've had.
    They purchased houses or rented them next to a stadium.
    Imagine if they lived next to Old Trafford, then they might have something to whine about.
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