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    Quote Originally Posted by Windowshopper View Post
    Also a better OP title would be "Tech bro says typical tech bro cod-rationalist bollocks".
    Yeah. No.

    The Google Memo: Four Scientists Respond - Quillette
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    The essence of the memo was that there are measurable, aggregate, average, group differences at the population level, in humans and it isn't productive to ignore these. Noticing this fact says nothing about people on an individual level, but does have something to say about the wisdom of seeking to impose gender-based quotas despite them.

    I would make the following observations. Very many people regard noticing or mentioning these facts as heresy and assume they could only be made by people with the basest possible motivations. The reaction to the story is characterised by a sneering dismissal of what science actually says about the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    I have been talking to people on Twitter about then and whenever I ask them to quote from the specifics of what the memo said, they have nothing.
    One of the things that makes post-modernism so attractive to many is its promise of relieving its adherents of the burden of requiring facts and evidence to support theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runwiththewind View Post
    Actually, when computers first made an appearance in schools it was almost exclusively studied by women. Same for the early years in 3rd level. An early joke was men and women doing the same thing by keyboarding and typing. Women were pushed out in the 80s.
    What evidence do you have to support that assertion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    It's uncontroversially correct that wide spread faith in Marxism collapsed by the end of the 1960's when evidence of the soviet disaster became overwhelming. Thankfully the writings of Young Marx emerged during this period and Left was able to repair its ideology by claiming culture rather than economics was the engine of history with homosexuals and 'minority' races serving as acceptable substitutes for proletarian class struggle.

    The 70's become obsessed with psychology and the cultural marixsts became armed with definitions of power and privilege as largely unconscious forces transmitted through unequal social relations. The 80's witnessed the aids epidemic driving the large homosexual bohemian underbelly of American cities onto the streets with the rousing slogan of 'silence means death'. The 90's brought the triumph of American globalization, the rise of the mainstream Internet (and e-commerce) and the End of History which naively predicted liberal capitalist democracy would conquer the world. The 00's saw Islamic terrorism that birthed the New Atheist movement which, after annoying Christians for a few years, quickly split over the 'elevator gate' drama here in Dublin and morphed into the modern social justice warrior.

    The modern day cultural marxist, better known as social justice warriors, are therefore products of recent American history. They are largely ignorant of economics preferring sociological criticism of popular culture. They are cosmopolitan and individualistic, preferring to create their own identity and their own 'tribe' rather than relying upon family and social bonds. They are vaguely socialist but are far more likely to become hot and bothered over diversity in multi million dollar computer games than the homeless dying alone in street corners. They speak of diversity but seek to homogenize nations into cosmopolitan market places along the American model. They view themselves as plucky little outsiders pushing against the evil patriarchy, little realizing their ideology is that of the ruling class and has been for generations.

    In short, they are the end product of decades of neo-liberalism, the American response to the Soviet Union and Marxism. Well meaning perhaps, but ultimately blind and nothing more than useful fools.
    Brilliantly put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    It is claimed that when Marxism's tale of the Capitalist vs. Proletariat failed to galvanize the masses into action, a new theory was developed to replace it which divided the world instead along the lines of "Oppressor" and "Oppressed". It's Marxism, but with a new gearbox. Hence the narrative about "privilege" and leftist veneration of designated "victim groups".
    It's Marxism, but without any Marxism. A bit like calling Dawkins, Hitchens & co. 'Cultural Christians'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_SR View Post
    Yeah, but they didn't.
    Case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy12345 View Post
    It's Marxism, but without any Marxism. A bit like calling Dawkins, Hitchens & co. 'Cultural Christians'.
    Kind of, I suppose and not really. It depends on whether you view Marxism as a theory whose goals were economic or societal. I don't think it unreasonable to suggest that it was societal change was the essence of Marxism 1.0 and that changing the economic structure was just a tactic to achieve that goal.
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    Google fired the employee. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...diversity-memo

    Burn the heretic.
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    Person with Harvard PhD in Systems Biology: "Google has a problem with viewpoint diversity and political correctness. Take a look at these scientific papers."

    Google:
    "You're fired"

    QED
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