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    Quote Originally Posted by ellie08 View Post
    auld Saul, he was a great chap. Set out killing Christians, and changed his tune on the road to Damascus - and that's whose writings the church as it is is founded upon. Perhaps we'd have been better off following James. Still, a few good tunes were written about him - this is not one of them

    That sexy camisole top is far too small for the horse with the creepily shrunken head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benroe View Post
    I read the Bible and its crap.

    Irrespective of its ideological/religious content the bible is recognised by most experts as great artistic literature.
    For somebody to call the book "crap" indicates artistic ignorance of the very highest possible order.

    Whatever about going to the Dark Side , it is really a tragedy for you to lose all sense of literary artistic appreciation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    Irrespective of its ideological/religious content the bible is recognised by most literary experts as great artistic literature.
    For somebody to call the book "crap" indicates artistic ignorance of the very highest possible order.

    Whatever about going to the Dark Side losing all sense of literary artistic appreciation is really a tragedy for you.
    Horses for courses. For most honest reviewers without an emotional investment, it's a bit of a curate's egg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    Horses for courses. For most honest reviewers without an emotional investment, it's a bit of a curate's egg.
    Tell me one work of great literature that is not a bit of a curates egg.?

    Indeed since "curates egg" is the leitmotive of nearly all large works of great literature to use that phrase is quite outré.

    And you are anything but an honest reviewer given your atheistic stance.


    Objectively speaking the bulk of literary experts have deemed the bible to be in the canon of great works of world literature.


    Thats a simple fact that has nothing to do with emotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    Irrespective of its ideological/religious content the bible is recognised by most experts as great artistic literature.
    For somebody to call the book "crap" indicates artistic ignorance of the very highest possible order.

    Whatever about going to the Dark Side , it is really a tragedy for you to lose all sense of literary artistic appreciation.
    Two things, firstly the Bible is a collection of books which in turn are collections of stories, some are deep and meaningful some insightful, some are bad but most are just weird ,violent and divisive.
    Secondly, this book was intended to give the followers of christ a blueprint for how they should live their lives and as such it has not stood the test of time and has been proven to be immoral by modern standards.

    As for its artistic value, meh.
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    I'm finding out what riffing and a curate's egg mean but I don't see how that's going to help. For the curious - Origin
    Early 20th century: from a cartoon in Punch (1895) depicting a meek curate who, given a stale egg at the bishop's table, assures his host that ‘parts of it are excellent’.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    Irrespective of its ideological/religious content the bible is recognised by most experts as great artistic literature.
    For somebody to call the book "crap" indicates artistic ignorance of the very highest possible order.

    Whatever about going to the Dark Side , it is really a tragedy for you to lose all sense of literary artistic appreciation.
    Only if you are in the habit of regularly reading the outpourings of madmen written in blood on the walls of mental institutions.
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    As has been pointed out in various threads which head in this direction the bible, it should be remembered, is a heavily edited collection of scrolls written by rather frantic rabbinical scholars in an attempt to explain a seriously bad run of luck to a desert tribe.

    Everything since then has been editorialised by others sets of rather frantic monks in rather chilly scriptoriums in Europe.

    The 'bible' is quite an arbitrary selection of scrolls very badly lashed together and you'd have to say the editing is quite appalling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    As has been pointed out in various threads which head in this direction the bible, it should be remembered, is a heavily edited collection of scrolls written by rather frantic rabbinical scholars in an attempt to explain a seriously bad run of luck to a desert tribe.

    Everything since then has been editorialised by others sets of rather frantic monks in rather chilly scriptoriums in Europe.

    The 'bible' is quite an arbitrary selection of scrolls very badly lashed together and you'd have to say the editing is quite appalling.
    All of what you say may be true. However, for all its faults Christianity including the cruelty inflicted on who it deemed unworthy, it's reasonable to say that it probably gave the underlying philosophical foundation to so much human progress that we benefit from.

    It's easy to knock it, but what are you putting in its place? Assuming you're not just nihilistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    As has been pointed out in various threads which head in this direction the bible, it should be remembered, is a heavily edited collection of scrolls written by rather frantic rabbinical scholars in an attempt to explain a seriously bad run of luck to a desert tribe.

    Everything since then has been editorialised by others sets of rather frantic monks in rather chilly scriptoriums in Europe.

    The 'bible' is quite an arbitrary selection of scrolls very badly lashed together and you'd have to say the editing is quite appalling.
    A desert tribe which has survived to this day and which are both through themselves and through that Book are a force to be reckoned with. Not bad for wandering Arameans.
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