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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    And Merc talks about 'irrational prejudice' against Islam.

    All Islamic countries are characterised by stone age attitudes towards women, but we're the problem - 'liberals' eh ?
    You know those women are Muslims too, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    Keep hearing about these hordes of liberal muslims, never actually hear from them though. Weird eh ?

    Would have thought the abduction of hundreds of children in Nigeria might provoke a response from these liberals, nada so far.

    Maybe they're hanging out in the North Pole with santa.
    Do you feel the need to publicly condemn atrocities committed by people who claim to share your religious views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoShandor View Post
    What is supposed to be offensive about labeling someone as a kafir?
    It means "infidel". That's as offensive as it gets.
    Actually " unbeliever" is the best translation- or disbeliever.
    To translate the social meaning of the term varies depending on the islamic society from something like the use of the term "n1gg3r" in southern united states to the use of the term "jew" in nazi Germany. More intercultural muslims would avoid using the term - especially for jews and christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    You think I've "twisted people's views" by claiming that Christians believe that Jesus is God? Interesting...
    I just think you're twisted..
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    It's true what they say. In countries where Muslims are a small minority, they are very well behaved and line in harmony with their non muslim neighbours.

    But get them together is large numbers and a cohort of savages emerge and bring despair to many...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Would you say that that sentiment characterizes a religion "which wishes to enforce its doctrine on non-believers"?
    You realise of course that all qur'anic verses must be read un context- the " no compulsion" verse was made in response to new converts to islam who,following pre-islamic social practice, where their kid got sick and was not cured by prayers to their gods, would promise to raise their child jewish if the jewish god cured them- they wanted to know of they were bound by such promises.

    Of course all these are to facilitate conversion only- it never applied to conversion from islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)"

    Bit of context...

    "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. 6 Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. 7 Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. 8 Remember that the Lord will reward each one of us for the good we do, whether we are slaves or free".
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuque View Post
    Bit of context...

    "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. 6 Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. 7 Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. 8 Remember that the Lord will reward each one of us for the good we do, whether we are slaves or free".
    You think that context makes it better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Do you feel the need to publicly condemn atrocities committed by people who claim to share your religious views?
    I don't have religious beliefs.

    Only time you see large groups of muslims protesting is when they want to slit the throat of some cartoonist or novelist, yet we constantly hear about the hordes of moderate muslims. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    I don't have religious beliefs.
    So when was the last time you protested against the actions of oppressive atheist regimes?
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