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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    Now that example doesn't illustrate your point very well.

    The British state would seem to be an excellent illustration of the gulf that can exist between theory (Monarchical Theocracy) and practice (Multicultural liberal parliamentary democracy)
    But my point in this context is that approachability does not equate to importance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Voice View Post
    You're still asking questions despite having been asked one yourself numerous times, and having evaded it each time. You were caught spoofing. You are clearly unable to tell us anything about the the great relationship between Allah and Muslims.

    And the reason for this is that these omniscient, omnipotent Gods (Allah is a complete rip-off of the Christian one; you can describe them both with the same words) lack identity, definition and shape. They are ineffable, and the human mind needs a more tangible focus to hang its hopes and aspirations on. Hence the importance of prophets.

    The differences between Muhammed and Christ are startling, and it is these differences that lead to different patterns of behaviour and worship. When a warlord who murders hostages and rapes children is the perfect man, you're going to see oppressive and bellicose patterns of behaviour in societies that honour him. And if this warlord was dedicated to statecraft, you're going to have intolerant countries governed by laws based on his "revelations" and example.

    This is why there is an "Islamic" world and a non-Islamic world; a Dar al-Islam and a Dar al-Harb. A place where there is Muslim rule and a place where there is not. This is Muhammed's legacy. It has nothing to do with Allah, an abstraction xeroxed from another abstraction.
    I guess the irony of saying that Muslims ripped off their concept of God from Christians is lost on you...

    Along with many other things, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Mac View Post
    That's just like your description of Muhammad as a paedo wife beater who went to heaven on a magical mule.

    It's harsh but absolutely consistent.
    Alternatively, both are incredibly shallow and obtuse descriptions that bear zero resemblance to the actual religious beliefs and practices in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    Here's a positive mass migration story.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/12/sw...-in-hiv-cases/
    When you find yourself making jokes about people with HIV, you should probably reconsider your life choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I guess the irony of saying that Muslims ripped off their concept of God from Christians is lost on you...

    Along with many other things, apparently.
    No, I was actually stressing that point. What they didn't rip off is their prophet. Hence the very different religion that emerged.

    Understand now at last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Voice View Post
    No, I was actually stressing that point. What they didn't rip off is their prophet. Hence the very different religion that emerged.

    Understand now at last?
    I think everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read your contributions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    Exactly,

    Hence why people find other, more accessible, role models.

    Options include:

    Hippy pacifist,
    Mother of hippy pacifist,
    Mindfullness guru,
    Chinese philosopher,
    Some saint
    Some Footballer
    Some Celebrity
    or
    Misogynistic War Criminal with documented paedophilic tendencies.

    Take your pick
    Now for rather baffling reason, the last individual on that list is above criticism.

    And the belief system built around that individual has decided that it is moral to murder anybody who leaves the belief system.

    That is a form of oppression on prople born into the belief systen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I think everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read your contributions.
    Now that's not nice!
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    Allah is a Sky Fairy and not a very good one at that .

    You’d think that you could make , a makey up Sky Fairy a Damn Good Sky Fairy .

    Imagine being a second rate Sky Fairy.....The Humiliation ! ! !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I think everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read your contributions.
    You both .
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