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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    You mean the mother of the hippy pacifist who was raped by her own son so that she could give birth to him?
    You could put that spin on it, I suppose, but I'm pretty sure that most Marian devotees don't see it that way, which is what matters.

    BTW, a more coherent subtext to the virgin conception story is that it invites one to identify with the teenager who finds herself with a crisis pregnancy. Indeed, such an invitation to identify with the victim is a core theme of Judeo-Christianity (especially Christianity). This identification with victims is the norm nowadays, but was a radical departure at the time.

    Islam on the other hand, despite the obvious superficial Judeo-Christian influences, seems to identify more with the perpetrators, and much of this is mediated through the role model of Mohammed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I'm more approachable to the average British person than the Queen of England. Does that mean the average British person thinks I'm more important?
    Now that example doesn't illustrate your point very well.

    The British state would seem to be an excellent illustration of the gulf that can exist between theory (Monarchical Theocracy) and practice (Multicultural liberal parliamentary democracy)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    Yes, really.



    So if someone is revered because they are regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God, why in the world would you think that God himself would be regarded as less important by the people who value the prophet precisely because they think that he or she is inspired by God?
    You're still asking questions despite having been asked one yourself numerous times, and having evaded it each time. You were caught spoofing. You are clearly unable to tell us anything about the the great relationship between Allah and Muslims.

    And the reason for this is that these omniscient, omnipotent Gods (Allah is a complete rip-off of the Christian one; you can describe them both with the same words) lack identity, definition and shape. They are ineffable, and the human mind needs a more tangible focus to hang its hopes and aspirations on. Hence the importance of prophets.

    The differences between Muhammed and Christ are startling, and it is these differences that lead to different patterns of behaviour and worship. When a warlord who murders hostages and rapes children is the perfect man, you're going to see oppressive and bellicose patterns of behaviour in societies that honour him. And if this warlord was dedicated to statecraft, you're going to have intolerant countries governed by laws based on his "revelations" and example.

    This is why there is an "Islamic" world and a non-Islamic world; a Dar al-Islam and a Dar al-Harb. A place where there is Muslim rule and a place where there is not. This is Muhammed's legacy. It has nothing to do with Allah, an abstraction xeroxed from another abstraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atkin8 View Post
    Got an example Hitch . When did you last post a link ?? Show me something positive about mass migration .
    Still waiting for the positive links on mass migration . All mouth and no proof Hitch .
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    Quote Originally Posted by atkin8 View Post
    Still waiting for the positive links on mass migration . All mouth and no proof Hitch .

    Here's a positive mass migration story.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/12/sw...-in-hiv-cases/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    Here's a positive mass migration story.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/12/sw...-in-hiv-cases/
    And because the migrants always use condoms when raping they don't pass any of their STDs and AIDS on to Stupid Swedish cúnts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    You mean the mother of the hippy pacifist who was raped by her own son so that she could give birth to him?
    That's just like your description of Muhammad as a paedo wife beater who went to heaven on a magical mule.

    It's harsh but absolutely consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atkin8 View Post
    Still waiting for the positive links on mass migration . All mouth and no proof Hitch .
    You can't read is it?

    Is IBEC not good enough.

    Are libertarian economists not good enough?

    Is the neo liberal establishments listing of the benefits so hard to find you can't search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fergal1790 View Post
    And because the migrants always use condoms when raping they don't pass any of their STDs and AIDS on to Stupid Swedish cúnts
    That is one of the more terrifying and heartbreaking aspects of the rape jihad waged against our women and children. Age is no longer a protection either. Time was, you were reasonably safe from rape in your dotage. And absolutely no one, not even 'Stupid Swedish Cūnts' - deserves to be brutally raped and grieveously injured by our new overlord scum. Time to get angry - at the ballot box only, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    You could put that spin on it, I suppose, but I'm pretty sure that most Marian devotees don't see it that way, which is what matters.

    BTW, a more coherent subtext to the virgin conception story is that it invites one to identify with the teenager who finds herself with a crisis pregnancy. Indeed, such an invitation to identify with the victim is a core theme of Judeo-Christianity (especially Christianity). This identification with victims is the norm nowadays, but was a radical departure at the time.

    Islam on the other hand, despite the obvious superficial Judeo-Christian influences, seems to identify more with the perpetrators, and much of this is mediated through the role model of Mohammed.
    Now take the logic behind your first sentence and apply it to Mohammed.
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