Originally Posted by NewDawn1

Are you seriously comparing 'the issue of ashes' to people hiding there faces in public?

I'm comparing political statements.

Originally Posted by statsman

Well, how about ashes on Ash Wednesday, then?

He's right. Terrible example.

Originally Posted by Toland

I think the justaposition of the union jack, the word infidel and a balaclava certainly looks very typical of the standard behaviour of the British extreme right, which is apparently obsessed with a connection between "whiteness" and British identity.

Your presumptions are pathetic, useless and desparate. You have proved nothing and added nothing to this debate.

Originally Posted by Toland

He's right. Terrible example.

It was in response to a particularly stupid post, in fairness.

Originally Posted by NewDawn1

Are you seriously comparing 'the issue of ashes' to people hiding there faces in public?

Unless they stick their whole face in them & even tho' it's only once a year.

Originally Posted by statsman

They're not all media reports of real events, when they are, they are often multiple reports of the same event and they're sometimes based on supposition and hearsay, and they pale into insignificance when set beside the number of hits for robbery without burka.

Now that is what I call sheer desperation. But do keep digging........

Originally Posted by Trampas

No pie-charts, histograms or percentages to hand.... Sorry. Just media reports of real events. Why are you questioning the validity of those media reports ?

Google search results are passed on an algorithm called PageRank. That algorithm returns and sorts pages passed based on the level of interest that websites that contain those combination of keywords get in terms of links and hits. It doesn't validate the integrity of the actual content

Originally Posted by rural

unless they stick their whole face in them & even tho' it's only once a year.

lol

Originally Posted by Toland

I think the justaposition of the union jack, the word infidel and a balaclava certainly looks very typical of the standard behaviour of the British extreme right, which is apparently obsessed with a connection between "whiteness" and British identity.

My first response to this was a bit harsh. I just do not get why we are talking about white nationalism?

Originally Posted by Clanrickard

I think that is correct. You should have to remove any face covering when asked by any officer of the state. Also shopkeepers and private individual should the right to refuse to serve or deal with anyone whose face is covered.

Whilst I have an issue with the government telling us what to wear, I agree with what you say above, private businesses and organisations are a different matter to the state - the message should be quite clear;if you wish to deal with us, you do so in an open and transparent fashion. If you wish to cover your face then we cannot accomodate you. If some enterprising Muslim woman wants to take advantage of this then she or he can open a burka friendly shop and we can watch in amusement as enterprising shoplifters loot the place blind......