Originally Posted by Dr Pat

This spake Zarathustra.

Thus dribbled Zarathustra. That's what you really mean to say.

Originally Posted by Ramon Mercadar

I mean it. This evening from Abbey St to Nth Earl St the place was over run with aggressive junkies. That affects tourism and even ordinary people using the shops in the area.

Ok, let's say you are concerned about junkies and skangers ( albeit only Irish ones it seems since, according to you, there are no foreigners among them). Others have concern about foreign scroungers. Both are bona fide concerns, I would have thought.

Originally Posted by Munnkeyman

The foreigners and the limp-wristed lefty-liberal types a.k.a. Multicultists. It's their fault that these poor people have been displaced in the ongoing deracination of the Irish state.
The "100% Irish" people have nowhere left to go!!

I think you are being sarcastic but I think you are half-right in blaming the left. Not for immigration policy but for handing the dole and houses to every generation of welfare dependants without even the pretence of them looking for work until they are so bereft of anything constructive to do that all-day everyday vodka and drugs binges becomes the norm. It is shameful to see the behaviour of many Irish inner city dwellers compared to that of their Chinese and Eatern European neighbours who actually run shops and try to better themselves.

Originally Posted by Raketemensch

I think you are being sarcastic but I think you are half-right in blaming the left. Not for immigration policy but for handing the dole and houses to every generation of welfare dependants without even the pretence of them looking for work until they are so bereft of anything constructive to do that all-day everyday vodka and drugs binges becomes the norm. It is shameful to see the behaviour of many Irish inner city dwellers compared to that of their Chinese and Eatern European neighbours who actually run shops and try to better themselves.

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are as "left" as my right shoe.

Originally Posted by Raketemensch

I think you are being sarcastic but I think you are half-right in blaming the left. Not for immigration policy but for handing the dole and houses to every generation of welfare dependants without even the pretence of them looking for work until they are so bereft of anything constructive to do that all-day everyday vodka and drugs binges becomes the norm. It is shameful to see the behaviour of many Irish inner city dwellers compared to that of their Chinese and Eatern European neighbours who actually run shops and try to better themselves.

Only a small number of the junkies are from the inner city, because of centralised services they come in from all parts of the city.

Originally Posted by Dr Pat

Ok, let's say you are concerned about junkies and skangers ( albeit only Irish ones it seems since, according to you, there are no foreigners among them). Others have concern about foreign scroungers. Both are bona fide concerns, I would have thought.

I haven't noticed any foreigners among the junkies in O'Connel Street. These junkies are extremely aggressive and will attack anyone who gets in their way. The worse I';ve seen from foreigners in the area is begging, they do not pose a danger to anyone.

I've seen east European junkies in Limerick. One guy used to hang around outside Abrakebabra in O’Connell street telling everyone he needed 2 euro for the bus. His face gaunt and his eyes were lost. He was infamous, don’t know where the poor lad is now, maybe he finally got a bus.

There was a program on RTE recently about immigrants who are finding it hard in Ireland now and it featured a good few eastern European lads who were living in hostels and had problems with alcohol and drugs.

Mass immigration has, in part, caused the degradation of the Irish working class. No point competing with an ever-ready supply of young, eager immigrants and most turn to the welfare route which leads to social deprivation with drugs soon entering the equation.

When I worked in Dell in the early 2000s there were guys coming straight from jail into a job. After the accession states came in that stopped.

Double post

Originally Posted by Munnkeyman

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are as "left" as my right shoe.

So are Labour, SF & the ULA

I wouldn't trust any of them

Originally Posted by Conor

I suspect, Catalpa, that you have no problem with mono-ethnic areas around Dublin - provided they're of your favourite ethnicity.

Is it a question of favourite? should the Irish not have a certain primacy in their own country? we're not going to get it elsewhere