Originally Posted by Astral Peaks

Don't worry, Catalpa will have a good bash at it anyway!

I had a feeling he's that type

Originally Posted by rainmaker

But if the poster is actually Irish, it would be hard to accuse them of being xenophobic toward themselves.

Actually, rainmaker, I have known Irish people so ****ing contrary that they would have no difficulty whatsoever in being xenophobic towards themselves.

In some ways it's one of the more admirable traits of the Irish race. In fact if I'm lucky enough to grow old, I'm hoping to grow into precisely such a person.

By that stage I expect television to be really crap, and I'll have to find some way to spend the long evenings.

Fingal - translates into "The Land of the Fair-haired Foreigner"......



Poxy Scandics coming in here and taking our jobs, women, gold, sheep, cattle, women, that nice lad from up the lane, women.......

Originally Posted by hiker

Fingal - translates into "The Land of the Fair-haired Foreigner"......



Poxy Scandics coming in here and taking our jobs, women, gold, sheep, cattle, women, that nice lad from up the lane, women.......

To be fair, they make some nice furniture....

Wrong target. What about the Culchie ghettos? THey come up here, taking our jobs, filling up the maternity hospitals. There are parts of Dublin where you will never hear a true Dub accent or see someone without wellies. They ritually sacrifice animals in their back gardens to make tripe and drisheen. Those Cork barbarians cut off pigs trotters foir crubeens. It would melt the heart of Sean Brady to see those poor pigs going around on their stumps.

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Originally Posted by Nigel Thornberry

There is a major shortage of foreign taxi drivers.

How can you tell they are foreign?

Originally Posted by Astral Peaks

Don't worry, Catalpa will have a good bash at it anyway!

Sadly self loathing about being Irish is a common feature on this Site ....

Originally Posted by MrD011

will those initiatives include opening up areas like foxrock , blackrock , dalkey , kiliney etc to Foreign Nationals or is it just the rest of us that have to accept multi ethnic societies ??

ye it makes sense as them people seem to be the most liberal and vocal in support of multiculturalism and our open door policy to immigration.

Originally Posted by Halo

ye it makes sense as them people seem to be the most liberal and vocal in support of multiculturalism and our open door policy to immigration.

Don't you believe it. They just have much more to lose through speaking their minds......so they usually don't, at least not in public.

Originally Posted by walrusgumble

Next time, don't think, know.

(a) The Arrangement only deals with redundancies, ie loosing your job through no fault of your own. It does not deal with being sacked or deciding to leave yourself.

(b) It is only a gap space for 6 months in order to get , (i) a new job and (ii) successfully get a brand new work permit (without the need to prove market test).

If you DO NOT get lucky at point b, (ie not get a job offer - which is very likely through no fault of their own) you then have to turn to the department of justice , state your case and hope that you will get a stamp 4 and permission to remain (without a permit) an exceptional basis (eg length of time here, children, partner)

It was an ADMINISTRATIVE Decision by both Enterprise and Justice to deal with redundancies in 2009. It was not in legislation. It is an amnesty, one which I FULLY AGREE with. Does not mean that it is part of the legislation, nor a permanent plan. There was even a temporary decision just to switch people over to Stamp 4 if they were close to being eligible for Stamp 4. Not the case now


Your also forgetting, entitlement to apply and right to a work permit are two different things. In practice, Department of Enterprise tended to try and refuse wp.

Work permits are stamp 1 btw.

Stamp 4? Eh, the only way people on green card / work permits (stamp 1) will get Stamp 4 is either via marriage to Irish/EU citizen, birth of Irish child ie Zambrano or gets Long Term Residency - (which you need 5 years of stamp 1) Not "Green card holder for 2 + years"

The bit about advice on not applying for benefit is your LTR or Citizenship is pending, is correct.

Regardless of whether is is an administrative decision or not the fact remains that those who lose their jobs while on work permits/green cards are permitted to remain and to claim benefits for a minimum of six months.

I am fully cognisant of the different immigration stamps and the conditions attached.

Until 2009 a person who held a green card for two years was issued with a Stamp 4 for 12 months, under the revised arragnements a person who has held a green card for two years is not required to renew the green card, they simply apply to Garda National Immigration and their Stamp 4 will be renewed for 2 years or until the expiry date of the applicant's passport. Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service Renewal of Green Card Work Permit


Policy for 5 year workers and redundant workers
1.
Provision for the exemption, subject to conditions from the requirement to hold a work permit of lawfully resident persons who have worked for 5 consecutive years or more with work permits and who currently hold a valid work permit issued by the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Innovation. This concession also applies to lawfully resident persons who have worked for 5 consecutive years on the basis of holding a working visa or a work authorisation issued under the Work Authorisation/Working Visa Scheme.*

2.This concession also applies to those persons who held a combination of work permits and spousal/dependant work permits. The Permits must cover a continuous 5 year period in total and the person must have Stamp 1 endorsements in their passport covering that period of work."

These workers are issued with a Stamp 4.

Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service Policy for 5 year workers and redundant workers