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    darren.oneill darren.oneill is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain2016 View Post
    Where do you get tghis information about "targetting" Dervish ? I've seen no evidence that the IPSC "called on their members to "target" the Dervish website and make it known they would lose "all credibility" if they did not boycott Israel."

    People are dreaming some of this stuff up...
    I am only referring to what was printed in the Irish Times:

    ...and had directed its supporters to target its website...
    Raymond Deane, the founder of the boycott campaign, who warned the band that it would have “lost all credibility” if it had played in Israel.
    Members of the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign claimed they were responsible for forcing the band to call off the tour.
    These are direct quotes from the piece which is linked on the original post.

    If only it was a dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shqiptar View Post
    I see that one contributor here has seen fit to give the personal names of some people deemed to be Zionist in the debates on the Dervish Facebook page.

    I've been involved in some of these exchanges on Facebook with some IPSC people. One of them who, shall we say, shares a first name with a legendary queen of Connacht blocked a number of us when we gently pointed out to her that contrary to her information, Gaza is not actually landlocked. This is the level of knowledge we're dealing with....!
    Did they quote Nelson Mandela ? That's usually regarded as a trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saigak View Post
    A lot of this would apply to Haredi also.
    Yes but that is not the law of the land in Israel.
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    Isreal bans musical instruments that are banned anyway in Gaza? What a load of lies and nonsense.
    Ive just been watching loads of clips of people playing music publicly in Gaza.
    This is my favourite.

    http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/unifeed/d/17557.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    Or better still Dervish would find as would the drones in the IPSC that under Sharia music by instruments is banned and women are not allowed sing at all. Also there would be protests against females being uncovered. Dervish would soon be glad to go to Israel.
    Perhaps you are getting your extremists mixed up ? Just a few examples from 1 website .

    Equality campaigners say women in Jerusalem are facing discrimination and segregation because of the growing influence of ultra-religious Jewish leaders.

    An attempt to ban women singing in public places is the latest move to spark protests after a few extremist Rabbis declared it too sexual for men to hear.
    "The female voice is beautiful and it is fine for women to sing to each other but we do not want men exposed to the temptation," Yakov Halperin, a religious member of Jerusalem's City Council, said.
    Women's rights groups have taken to organising public sing-a-longs in the street in response.
    "We cannot let them silence us," one woman said as a crowd of about 100 women sang beside one of the city's main roads.

    Idit Karni, Jerusalem resident
    "This is a slippery slope and it's our democracy that's at stake," another protester said.
    Even Israel's military, long a bastion of sexual equality, has been drawn into the row with some religious soldiers boycotting ceremonial events where female soldiers might be singing.
    In religious areas of the city there are growing incidents of self-imposed "separation" of the sexes, despite laws banning segregation.

    Frequently women sit at the back of buses, have separate entrances in some shops and different hours at medical facilities.
    The practice is confined to ultra-observant neighbourhoods but women's groups claim it is part of the creeping marginalisation of half of the population.
    They point to the trend among advertising agencies to use only images of men in their campaigns in Jerusalem.
    Risque images of women that can be found plastered on billboards in Tel Aviv are considered offensive by the ultra-religious community.
    "It is now rare to find any images of women at all, even those dressed modestly," Idit Karni told Sky News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fo Real View Post
    I feel the same way when President Hobbit Higgins and the motley rag-tag bunch of socialists in the Dail start yapping about Palestine. Perhaps they should concentrate on our own country, which isn't in the best shape right now, like we elected them to. I'll never understand the inexplicable obsession with Israel among some quarters in Ireland. Get your own house in order.

    Seriously lol, you really think you will make friends and influence people to support Israel with bull like this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain2016 View Post
    So what you are proving is that the Jews came from far and wide...and took the land off the natives of Palestine?
    Keep up, Some of the anti-israeli crowd seem to under the impression a large proportion of the Israelis are Americans,

    "and took the land off the natives of Palestine"

    you'll find the native landowners were only too willing to sell their land to the Israelis at inflated prices. In the Palestinian authority/west bank selling property to Jews constitutes "high treason" and is punishable by death. Nonetheless Palestinians still continue sell their immoveable assets to Jews, particularly Palestinian Christain families how have emigrated. (Palestinian christains use toconstitute 25% of the pop., and were traditionally the wealthy property owning class in Palestinian society).
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    So every piece of land that used to be owned by the locals and is now part of Israel was bought at inflated prices?

    Even the Israeli's don't push that line anymore ffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_SR View Post
    So every piece of land that used to be owned by the locals and is now part of Israel was bought at inflated prices?

    Even the Israeli's don't push that line anymore ffs.
    Where did I say every piece of land !, Custodial and Absentee land comprises 12% of Israel's total territory, owners of lands which have been confiscated under the Absentees’ Property Law (1950), are compensated. The IDF are much more likely expel Jewish owners from their homes, if they live in a contentious area.
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    To get back to the thread title, this is wonderful news.
    It proves that the Boycott is working.
    Even a band that was revived specifically for the purpose of playing in Israel - and doubtless offered plenty of shekels for doing so - can be convinced that it's not worth their while.

    Great news!
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