Has a fascinating article by Desmond Fennell which I'm unable to post here ( and maybe shouldn't judging by a warning from Dave earlier ) but summarised by it's title : " Why a United Ireland has lost it's significance ". He essentially argues that Irish nationalism , as a living force, has evaporated.
Magazine invites comment on the article.
I really don't like the IPR.
A poster of some consequence...
At least the IPR offers some relief
from the lazy concensus in Irish Academia
especially around history and the theorey
of Nationality
Do you want to defy pigeon holes and at the
same time avoid designer synicism Laugh with
rage!
Moderator can't you let him post a least a little of it.
To be honest I think it's a pretty threadbare operation, although every once in a while there is something interesting. Considering these are largely the same people who foisted the 'two nations' theory on us to hear their most recent pronouncements ... ah, it's just irritating.
BTW cropbeye, which lazy consensus would that be re history and the 'theorey' (sic) of nationalism?
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I am sure you could post key parts of it.Originally Posted by jerryp
RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams
Or link to it, if it's online. Or put it up on another site somewhere.I am sure you could post key parts of it.
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I think Fennell is putting the essay in his new book, "On Behaving Normally".
Desmond Fennell's other book "The Revision of European History" seems to offer a conservative theory of
world history similar to other right-wing thinkers such as Oswald Spengler, Leo Strauss
and Eric Voegelin.
Of course, the IPR would eviscerate anyone else who even hinted at "a united Ireland losing
its significance". Its August issue featured a record 12 separate attacks on the Irish Times, and
a hagiography of Dennis O'Brien.
Nothing I haven't been saying for years.
A little lesson on geographic and political terms for dummies :
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According to DR O'Connor Lysaght, Desmond Fennell supported the idea that the Ulster Protestants were a seperate nation in the 1960s....
"....the fact that Ulster Protestants do not constitute a nation as such means that, similarly, the claim that the Irish Catholics on their own form a nation must be rejected for the same reasons. Until the present decade (the 1970s) it was notable that those readiest to accept the separation of Northern Ireland – including such as Ernest Blythe and Desmond Fennell – were also those who were most prepared to accept the confessional nature of the twenty-six county state as being most in keeping with the national 'psychology' (in reality because the Catholic Church is useful to discipline the workforce)."
http://www.workersrepublic.org/Pages/Ir ... dorn4.html
Hence the affinity between him and B&ICO and Aubane.
An amusing irony...Books Upstairs stocks the Athol Books titles next to those by Socialist
Democracy, the descendents of People's Democracy. PD and B&ICO were mortal enemies
in the 1960s and 1970s, even when the latter supported Irish Nationalism.
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