Originally Posted by gracethepirate

I doubt Herodotus would have made up slavery if it wasn't there already. His readers/listeners would have been mighty puzzled, and some of them would have thought "what a good idea..."

Slavery does make sense, economically. I read somewhere, I think in Cattle Lords and Clansmen (an Irish history text, in case you don't know) that there was always a chronic shortage of labour. That was partly due to lots of young men dying in battles, also high infant mortality etc. Even without being a slave, workers can easily get exploited by their employers as any fule know.

I'm just waffling on...

I agree with your point, I was more just making a quip about Herodotus and his bias in terms of his writing pre-Peloponnesian Wars and general exaggerations and inventions. He was a slightly dubious historian.

Well slavery would make good economic sense but isn't all that morally sound, even if good chunks of the Bible say it's cool.

Originally Posted by Munnkeyman

I agree with your point, I was more just making a quip about Herodotus and his bias in terms of his writing on the Peloponnesian Wars and general exaggerations and inventions. He was a slightly dubious historian.

Well slavery would make good economic sense but isn't all that morally sound, even if good chunks of the Bible say it's cool.

I know you were quipping, and I was being deadly serious, as usual.

Originally Posted by gracethepirate

I know you were quipping, and I was being deadly serious, as usual.

It's your Avatar.

Originally Posted by alloverbartheshouting

_{Yes, Obi Wan, I shall.}

Now, back to my mate Herodotus. You sayin' he's a liar, or was just basing his Histories on oral narratives and observations, of like, slavery and stuff in his lifetime? 'Cos it's shocking late for reanimation....

Didn't say nothing.

Originally Posted by Munnkeyman

It's your Avatar.

She did not like the sound of the jet flypast and the noise (and possibly sight) of hoi polloi milling below.

That's why I chose her as my avatar - also because she is another Grace.

Right, time for bed. Dem Junior Infants won't make pancakes tomorrow on their own after all...

Night, all.

Originally Posted by gracethepirate

Mercurial: is this map for diabetes incidence, or is it just something you pulled off the web because it shows colours in the right position? Where is your source?

I may be lazy, but I'm not *that* lazy.

Fileiabetes world map - 2000.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is the source.

Originally Posted by Mercurial

I may be lazy, but I'm not *that* lazy.

Fileiabetes world map - 2000.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is the source.

Thank you. People have been known to pull out "facts" just to win an argument, maybe even on p.ie

Originally Posted by Munnkeyman

Didn't say nothing.

Wise.

Start dissing the big H and you'll have me on your purple ass too.

I'm a Herodotus fanboy, me.

I've had more editions of the Histories over the last + or - 30 years than NewDaw has had of the Koran.

Except mine really existed.

Originally Posted by alloverbartheshouting

So, we're now on to slavery and type 2 diabetes. Am I reading that correctly?

*sigh* It was all so easy when we could just blame the bankers.....

I would say it is allot easier to blame things on idiots who eat too much fat and sugar and on stuff that happened long ago than bankers who control almost our entire way of living. But I am guessing your just trying to be funny so I will not say anymore.