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    The perils of technology - putting stuff on the internet you later regret

    Two weeks ago a friend of mine rang me in a panic. Had he left his mobile phone in my house, when he and his girlfriend visited, he wanted to know? I checked. He hadn't. He was distraught. So was she.

    It wasn't simply the loss of numbers etc - I know all about that having lost my own phone in December. Their problem was simple: one night, in a drunken state, they had saved clips of themselves having sex on the phone. It was only for their eyes, they thought. But they were now terrified - what if someone else found that phone and saw those clips. They didn't tell me what the clips were of, just that they were very explicit - lets say they would get past any censor if included in a film.

    Last weekend, their worst nightmare happened. One of them got a phone call from a friend. They had seen on of those clips on a website. Whoever had found the phone (or stolen it) had got into it, found the clips and uploaded them to some sex sites.

    The couple managed to get the clip taken down from that site, but they have no idea what other clips are around, on what websites, and how many people have been using the clips to . . . em . . . aid their own excitement, so to speak. They are terrified their school friends, work colleagues, cousins, siblings, maybe the boss will see them. Or worse still has already seen them but hasn't told them, but are sharing the clips around, and discussing the couple behind their backs.

    It is freaking them out.

    Large numbers of people now upload clips of themselves to sites like you tube and more explicit sites. How many of those who do that consider the implications. For those clips aren't there for a day or two, but potentially indefinitely. They could damage their job prospects, their relationships, embarrass their kids in the future, or be used by the media if they ever got a prominent job, whether in business, politics, the media, the arts, or whatever. Tabloids just love running with stories of a sex tape doing the rounds when they involve someone high profile, even where the tape is years, even decades old. One woman running for the local council the last time around was humiliated by a simple picture on her facebook of her drunkenly groping a female friend. At the time it was put up, it seemed like innocent enough. But give it to a tabloid in the middle of a campaign when years later she was running for election, and it is dynamite, and it blew her political career out of the water.

    I often wonder if people when they are 18 or 19 or in their twenties, and for the craic upload explicit pictures of themselves, or embarrassing pictures of themselves, ever think of whether that picture will help or hinder their job prospects or relationships later on? What may seem like innocent craic at the time can embarass the hell out of you years later, as that couple have realised to their cost. They have no idea how many of their clips are doing the rounds, who is watching them, and whether their parents will suddenly get a call telling them of the sex tape on a porno site involving their son or daughter.

    So do people pay enough heed to the implications of putting up personal information, personal names, photos, videos etc on the internet? Will we see a lot of people in the future, when they get older, desparately trying to find and delete all the old videos they put up of themselves on websites, and worrying in years to come whether the information they put up in their teens and twenties will come back to haunt them in their careers and private life in the future?
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    It's one of many reasons I am not on facebook or twitter or any such narcissosites...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    It's one of many reasons I am not on facebook or twitter or any such narcissosites...

    You are right. I am on them. Maybe it is because of my age but I avoided putting up anything much to do with private personal stuff. But you see on a lot of websites people putting up very very intimate stuff. They are nuts.
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    Pics or gtfo!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    It's one of many reasons I am not on facebook or twitter or any such narcissosites...
    You know you don't *have* to have a nude profile pic, right?
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    Their first mistake was making the videos, they always come back to bite the participants in the ass later!!!

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    If you give me some details of the people concerned i could help by finding any stray clips.
    Tommy, they sound like idiots to be honest. What the hell were they thinking?
    I'm surprised they can work a phone.
    I'm not convinced this story is true either.
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    We all leave a trail.

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    "The photograph had been discovered when a member of the public typed the words "John", "Anne" and "Panama" into Google Images. The photo was featured on the website movetopanama.com and brought to the attention of the Daily Mirror and Cleveland Police"

    His downfall was caused by:
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    John Darwin has been to jail and back.
    He is now out and is treated like an idiot.

    Anyone creating a digital trail without thinking about it is looking for trouble.
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    I hate to sound harsh but ....

    To be honest, while I sympathise with your friend and his girlfriend, I can't help but think that keeping the clips was idiotic. Hey, what they do in the privacy in their own bedroom is their business, but if your friend remembered that these clips were on his phone, then he wasn't drunk enough to have forgotten about them altogether the next day.

    I take your point about younger people uploading material that might seem innocuous enough to them now coming back to haunt them - I'm the eldest of a raft-load of grandchildren, and have the scary task of being a Facebook spy/elder lemon for the late teens/early 20s brigade. Some of what is posted would leave you stunned. And yes, one lost out on a good job last year because the stupid boy did not believe me when I told him that the companies he would be applying to after college (IT jobs, for Jebus' sake) have ways of finding out about online lives - Google is only the half of it. I'd been telling him for years to drop the mooning/p*ss head photos and references to drug taking, but I was accused of being old and boring.

    Ultimately though, it's up to individuals to use their own cop on to decide what they are happy with the world seeing of their lives. Again, I pity your friend and his girlfriend, but I doubt either of them would have been half as careless with his credit card details or ATM PIN. Grated, they did not upload the material themselves (a major personal intrusion in anyone's book) but the fact is that the clips should have been deleted as soon as possible.

    Again, I don't mean to sound heartless, but we all need to use our own initiative where Smartphones, social medica etc. are concerned. After all, we all know not to drunk dial.

    And BTW, I don't tweet - who really cares what I had for lunch or where I'll be this weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    If you give me some details of the people concerned i could help by finding any stray clips.
    Tommy, they sound like idiots to be honest. What the hell were they thinking?
    I'm surprised they can work a phone.
    I'm not convinced this story is true either.
    They were drunk when they made the clips. Drunk 19 year olds do dumb things and rarely think of the consequences. Look at any sex site where people post clips of themselves and you wonder just how dumb are they. A lot of people post explicit stuff of themselves without thinking. They are idiots to do it. But there are tons and tons and tons of idiots out there.
    "Irish citizens . . . on ratification of the Treaty could be forced to become Euro soldiers." Sinn Féin claim on Maastricht in 'Democracy or Dependency' p.6. in 1992.

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