Originally Posted by controller

I'm not suggesting, I'm saying....& I have no problem with the Ryan Air add so I have no intention of taking anything up with them. Get a life, relax and get your bikini on and go down to the beach

Wow, what an intelligent, thoughtful, high brow comment. That really has made me see things in a different light.

Originally Posted by femmefatale

Wow, what an intelligent, thoughtful, high brow comment. That really has made me see things in a different light.

Here's a video about the charity that the money is going to support, EB really is a terrible disease with no cure! Watch that through and then come back here and tell me that this calendar is the spawn of satan, really is easy for people with no problems to complain a lot!

debra ireland sponsorship - YouTube

Originally Posted by cbyrne11

Here's a video about the charity that the money is going to support, EB really is a terrible disease with no cure! Watch that through and then come back here and tell me that this calendar is the spawn of satan, really is easy for people with no problems to complain a lot!

debra ireland sponsorship - YouTube

One of the things I find most distasteful about the whole thing is that the purported purpose is to raise money for children's charities. Of course the real reason the company put out this calendar is to generate cheap publicity for themselves, and entertain and titillate male bosses/customers at the same time. I'm sure they've found some good cause that they can pretend to care about. Why doesn't MO'L donate some of his billions instead of getting customers to contribute and exploiting and degrading his female employees in the process?

Originally Posted by femmefatale

One of the things I find most distasteful about the whole thing is that the purported purpose is to raise money for children's charities. Of course the real reason the company put out this calendar is to generate cheap publicity for themselves, and entertain and titillate male bosses/customers at the same time. I'm sure they've found some good cause that they can pretend to care about. Why doesn't MO'L donate some of his billions instead of getting customers to contribute and exploiting and degrading his female employees in the process?

Oh get off your high horse, the charity is going to receieve 100+ grand out of this, I agree that this is just a way of advertising for the company but it is also gives free advertising to the charity, also I imagine some of these women have aspirations of modelling, so bing free advertising for them, so basically everyone gains!

I take it you didn't watch that video then? Pulls on the hearthstrings which either you don't have any or you didn't watch it! I have fundraised for them in the past as a friend of mine worked for them and I can say that they are seriously pressed for cash and if this helps them then great!

Originally Posted by Islandeady

I was absolutely shocked to see a Ryanair ad that sexualised young women. They were walking around the streets of Dublin in their under garments especially on a day like to day. With young eyes watching them. This is shameful that these women are being exploited. There is a look of fear on the women in the second picture, you can see it in their eyes. Either that or they are cold.

Meanwhile, On The Back of A Lorry In Dublin | Broadsheet.ie

I haven't laughed this much in a while. Thanks!

Originally Posted by femmefatale

One of the things I find most distasteful about the whole thing is that the purported purpose is to raise money for children's charities. Of course the real reason the company put out this calendar is to generate cheap publicity for themselves, and entertain and titillate male bosses/customers at the same time. I'm sure they've found some good cause that they can pretend to care about. Why doesn't MO'L donate some of his billions instead of getting customers to contribute and exploiting and degrading his female employees in the process?

Do you still believe that girls have brought to studio in chains?
I know few EA hostesses from Ryanair who also wanted to be in calendar, but they haven't been chosen this time. They will be proud to show their kids that at one stage they were the best looking cabin crew in biggest air company in the world.
It looks like everybody happy - girls got a first class photos, Ryanair got publicity and saved/created jobs, MOL got profit, charity got money, only feminists and socialists are moaning after realizing fact that they didn't contributed anything close to that

Originally Posted by cbyrne11

Oh get off your high horse, the charity is going to receieve 100+ grand out of this, I agree that this is just a way of advertising for the company but it is also gives free advertising to the charity, also I imagine some of these women have aspirations of modelling, so bing free advertising for them, so basically everyone gains!

I take it you didn't watch that video then? Pulls on the hearthstrings which either you don't have any or you didn't watch it! I have fundraised for them in the past as a friend of mine worked for them and I can say that they are seriously pressed for cash and if this helps them then great!

I don't believe in helping good causes in an unethical, cynical fashion. I'm sure these charities do good work. I don't respect their decision to align themselves with this tawdry campaign though. There are plenty of ways to raise money/awareness without being part of the sexist exploitation and objectification of women.

Originally Posted by controller

Jesus............More exploitation.......

Those are people who are employed to be strippers. The Ryanair staff are employed to be flight attendants.

Originally Posted by femmefatale

One of the things I find most distasteful about the whole thing is that the purported purpose is to raise money for children's charities. Of course the real reason the company put out this calendar is to generate cheap publicity for themselves, and entertain and titillate male bosses/customers at the same time. I'm sure they've found some good cause that they can pretend to care about. Why doesn't MO'L donate some of his billions instead of getting customers to contribute and exploiting and degrading his female employees in the process?

Look, I hate Ryanair and never travel with them. And sure, there is a degree of hypocrisy in this, doing a charity gig when the real aim is corporate publicity.
If there is evidence that any of Ryanair employees were bullied or coerced into doing this then of course, that would be wrong.
But let's be under no illusions here. Heterosexual men are all the same. We, if we are being honest, (and normal), find the sight of attractive women in bathing suits, well............................attractive. That is never going to change. We are hard-wired that way, and yes, we are all the same.

Originally Posted by femmefatale

One of the things I find most distasteful about the whole thing is that the purported purpose is to raise money for children's charities. Of course the real reason the company put out this calendar is to generate cheap publicity for them, and entertain and titillate male bosses/customers at the same time. I'm sure they've found some good cause that they can pretend to care about. Why doesn't MO'L donate some of his billions instead of getting customers to contribute and exploiting and degrading his female employees in the process?

If each and every one of these woman queued up and explained to you that they choose to do this and did not feel exploited or degraded in the slightest - that they had nothing to gain or lose by choosing to be in this calander, or not - that they did this simply because they wanted to, you still wouldn't accept it, would you?
You are completely incapable of accepting that your inherited morals and beliefs are not absolute facts - that they are not conclusions in, and of, themselves.
Your posts are painful to read. Interacting with you is like try to debate with a turnip.