"Let's be fair about this, we all partied" - does it justify economic conscription?

[CookieMonster]

And riddled with cancer There's an upside to everything

That is a disgusting comment. You utter scumbag.

[Fergalino]

your a sick twisted bollox!! I woudlnt wish that ilness or celebrate the fact that anyone has it


i hope you lose your job and the roof over your head, genuinley!!

+100

[gatsbygirl20]

i certanly didnt party!! I remember a few years back an electrician working on a housing estate near north cork, who boasted that he had bought 3 of the houses himself, traight off the plans!! At the same time he was borrowing to pay for his investment properties I was putting spare cash into my mortgage!! I've been on 4foreign holidays in the last 10 years, 1 being my honeymoon while wathcibng others scoot off buying property and holiday apartments abroad!1

Now I have to pay for these fnckwits cos god love em, its about how much you can afford, not about how stupid and greedy youve been!! Now my pension contributions are going to be plundered, and my future retirement put at stake because of greedy ******************************************s who had/nt a clue!!

This is so true. People who saved, lived modestly, avoided the lure of debt, who thought of the future, or their pension, are now "the rich" who will be plundered as the low hanging fruit. Those who went into total hock building extensions, putting in stunning bathrooms and kitchens, buying investment properties abroad, none of which they can now pay for, at least got the pleasure of swanning round in luxury for a few years and living the dream. Some of their debt will have to be forgiven anyway probably, and they have no money left to be taken, or to go down in a bank meltdown.. (I exclude young couples caught out trying to set up a home)

The private sector pension clawback was cited by Lenihan (when questioned by a hopelessly under-briefed Miriam O'C last night) as his only example of an attack on "the rich". Sure, the super-rich thieved shamelessly through those pension loopholes, but be sure they have yet more loopholes to continue legally thieving...taxes are only for the little people...

While the ordinary fiscally responsible private sector PAYE worker who is trying to stash a few bob for his future in a pension, is trapped like a rabbit in a headlight as he sees the Lenihan Express coming to take yet more money from him, (from already taxed income), and he has damn all "loophole" wriggle room.....While Lenihan has the bare-faced cheek to pretend that this ordinary guy has something in common with "the rich"......A disgrace

[flavirostris]

It's just a variation on the "We're all to blame" schtick

[ifreannach]

I did not "party" in that context.

I worked hard, had a good job with a good salary, paid my bills, had some holidays all paid for, paid off my mortgage, did not "take equity", no property portfolio foreign or local, no holiday home,no replacing the car every year, bought my car in 2003 using a two year personal loan. No kitchen upgrades, no decking, same curtains on the windows since 2004, same tv since god was a boy.

In other words I had a decent lifestyle which I believe that everyone who works hard deserves and is entitled to.

+1 except i still have a mortgage have only ever had one holiday in australia where i worked to keep up the funds, young family now and working my ass off so come wednesday im looking at my diesel hoping to get home until payday thursday. had to get oil today after it ran out last week. never wanted for anything however even working its getting harder

[Raketemensch]

Your a sick twisted bollox!! I woudlnt wish that ilness or celebrate the fact that anyone has it


I hope you lose your job and the roof over your head, genuinley!!

Oh shut up.

One flippant comment and I'm the bad guy even though Lenihan and his buddies who are pulling in millions of your money have ruined your country for generations and doomed your children to poverty to pay off their gambling debts.

You are pathetic little mice, the ruling elite in Paddyland know for certain that they can do whatever the hell they like and the sheeple will just attack one another for being 'mean' or whatever.

[myhonorisloyalty666]

When he says 'we', he means career politicians pulling in a quarter mill a year, buying up apartment blocks and then getting the poor to pay their gambling bills when they can't sell the last few. They partied, what he says is quite correct.

What about the boyracers with peroxide mohawks who dressed in Hilfiger threads and pimped their BMW's? The people who partied in Ibiza or went to summer rock concerts or got langers drunk every other weekend in the local nightclubs? What about the girls with flashy handbags, expensive heels and fake tans? What about the muppets who snorted coke? What about the clowns who bought plush furniture, granite kitchen tops, teak decking, HD TV's, accumulated vast DVD collections, bought X-Boxes or snorted coke off Eastern European whores' breasts? What about the GAA fans who blew money on shirts, hats, flags and headbands, hot dogs, chocolate bars and a soft drink or pints of Guinness? What about all the pints in Shelbourne Park? What about the Magners' league season tickets? The great shiny white elephant in Landsdowne? The Munster and Leinster fans? What about the students who studied Greek and Roman studies in UCD and got a free grant from the government so they could puke it up in a Temple Bar nightclub and get thrown out by bouncers, failed the year and got to do Sociology which they failed again knowing Daddy and Mammy would bail them out regardless? What about the smug people who sponsored a child in Africa or pontificated about climate change or ranted about the evils of George W. Bush or Israel while they were cocooned from the troubles of the Third World and the Middle East? What about the fools who almost fought a Civil War over Saipan and Keane/McCarthy? The fools. The fools.

[Raketemensch]

That is a disgusting comment. You utter scumbag.

What I said to the last guy

[Raketemensch]

What about the boyracers with peroxide mohawks who dressed in Hilfiger threads and pimped their BMW's? The people who partied in Ibiza or went to summer rock concerts or got langers drunk every other weekend in the local nightclubs? What about the girls with flashy handbags, expensive heels and fake tans? What about the muppets who snorted coke? What about the clowns who bought plush furniture, granite kitchen tops, teak decking, HD TV's, accumulated vast DVD collections, bought X-Boxes or snorted coke off Eastern European whores' breasts? What about the GAA fans who blew money on shirts, hats, flags and headbands, hot dogs, chocolate bars and a soft drink or pints of Guinness? What about all the pints in Shelbourne Park? What about the Magners' league season tickets? The great shiny white elephant in Landsdowne? The Munster and Leinster fans? What about the students who studied Greek and Roman studies in UCD and got a free grant from the government so they could puke it up in a Temple Bar nightclub and get thrown out by bouncers, failed the year and got to do Sociology which they failed again knowing Daddy and Mammy would bail them out regardless? What about the smug people who sponsored a child in Africa or pontificated about climate change or ranted about the evils of George W. Bush or Israel while they were cocooned from the troubles of the Third World and the Middle East? What about the fools who almost fought a Civil War over Saipan and Keane/McCarthy? The fools. The fools.

I didn't know that Lenihan had such a broad set of friends

[He3]

This is so true. People who saved, lived modestly, avoided the lure of debt, who thought of the future, or their pension, are now "the rich" who will be plundered as the low hanging fruit. Those who went into total hock building extensions, putting in stunning bathrooms and kitchens, buying investment properties abroad, none of which they can now pay for, at least got the pleasure of swanning round in luxury for a few years and living the dream. Some of their debt will have to be forgiven anyway probably, and they have no money left to be taken, or to go down in a bank meltdown.. (I exclude young couples caught out trying to set up a home)

The private sector pension clawback was cited by Lenihan (when questioned by a hopelessly under-briefed Miriam O'C last night) as his only example of an attack on "the rich". Sure, the super-rich thieved shamelessly through those pension loopholes, but be sure they have yet more loopholes to continue legally thieving...taxes are only for the little people...

While the ordinary fiscally responsible private sector PAYE worker who is trying to stash a few bob for his future in a pension, is trapped like a rabbit in a headlight as he sees the Lenihan Express coming to take yet more money from him, (from already taxed income), and he has damn all "loophole" wriggle room.....While Lenihan has the bare-faced cheek to pretend that this ordinary guy has something in common with "the rich"......A disgrace

Several bullseyes hit in that one post.