Ireland's sons turn their backs on the priesthood

[Cato]

Cheap shot.

I suppose it was, but it is only one example of the negative influence that religion had and has on our health service.

If that is the case, you must be in favour of turing away suicidal people at 5pm on Friday evening (Hey, it's happy hour, afterall).

Not in favour of that at all, dear boy, and it doesn't reflect the treatment I received, but yes, the government has made cuts since I was through the system. However, what was unhelpful during my treatment was the shrinks constantly bringing up religion. Quite irksome.

I know you have this anti-Catholic thing going on. However, even you must see that religious people (despite their many inadequacies) provide a counterbalance to the State and help a great many people.

They do, but at what cost?

[Radix]

Not at all. What makes you think that?

Thought that your comments on "lay" people was a bit disparaging Cato. The truth is that a 'new priesthood' will emerge from that same laity, and it will consist of people like yourself. The old 'church' was more intersted in preserving museums, rather than cultivating gardens flourishing with real life, and promised a great destiny.

You by your own admission have cultivated a garden, with life created within it, because of the seeds you have sown there. Because marriage images the Trinitarian God which Christians believe in, then you whether you like it or not are imaging this God. My best regards to your beautiful Garden and indeed to the fruits which emerged from it.

[Fr. Hank Tree]

Don't be ridiculous. We had our own form of sharia law long enough. We aint going back.

Tbh this comment is a bit silly. Sharia law is religious law is it not? Ireland never had a religious law and has always been governed by civil law. If you think that Ireland used to be very conservative, fair enough, but that's because that's the way the people wanted it. Society generally was conservative, it wasn't some mullahs keeping everyone else hostage. When you look back at history, try not to let your current political outlook distort your view of the facts.

[EUrJokingMeRight]

'Ireland's sons turn their backs on the priesthood'

You think they would know better. What with all the recent revelations about certain priests.

[White Horse]

You by your own admission have cultivated a garden, with life created within it, because of the seeds you have sown there. Because marriage images the Trinitarian God which Christians believe in, then you whether you like it or not are imaging this God. My best regards to your beautiful Garden and indeed to the fruits which emerged from it.

Are you alluding to Augustine's analogy of the Trinity?

You do realise it is just an analogy.

[myksav]

Ireland's sons turn their backs on the priesthood.

Yet, Ireland's daughters call to be priests.

[myksav]

This is true. With the lower levels of manpower, it will leave the RCC quite stretched in trying to stay directly involved in schools and hospitals. This can only be a good thing as long as the clerics are not replaced by even more regressive lay people. Certainly there is an opportunity coming to remove the RCC from the public sphere and relegate it to the solely private sphere of its own believers. They're currently on their knees and close to falling. Time to give them a kicking and make sure they stay down.

When nuns were in charge of hospitals, it was safer to eat your dinner off the ward floor than off a plate at home. Now that they aren't doing that cleaning work, going to hospital can be a major health hazard with hospital borne diseases.

"Time to give them a kicking and make sure they stay down."
That has been called for and attempted many times the past 2,000 years for Catholicism and even longer for Judeaism. They're both still extant.

[Cato]

"Time to give them a kicking and make sure they stay down."
That has been called for and attempted many times the past 2,000 years for Catholicism and even longer for Judeaism. They're both still extant.

I don't want them wiped out, nor do I believe they will be wiped out, but they should be removed from any influence over the state or state policy. Religion has to be removed from the public sphere and relegated to where it belongs - the private sphere.

[dresden8]

When nuns were in charge of hospitals, it was safer to eat your dinner off the ward floor than off a plate at home.

My ma was a cleaner for 40 years. The lack of hygiene has nothing to do with the nuns, it was contracting to the cheapest fncker who would run a buffer over the floors.

30 years ago she was telling us the hospitals were filthy kips. This is not new. But who listens to cleaners?

All hail the market. Our saviour.

Bollix.

[Half Nelson]

Tbh this comment is a bit silly. Sharia law is religious law is it not? Ireland never had a religious law and has always been governed by civil law. If you think that Ireland used to be very conservative, fair enough, but that's because that's the way the people wanted it. Society generally was conservative, it wasn't some mullahs keeping everyone else hostage. When you look back at history, try not to let your current political outlook distort your view of the facts.

DIY History allows everybody to feel superior. As a society we were never more barbaric or controlled yet we perceive ourselves to be at the pinnacle of human achievement. Go figure!