Ireland's sons turn their backs on the priesthood

[Ah Well]

They're currently on their knees and close to falling. Time to give them a kicking and make sure they stay down.

I'm afraid they're managing quite well to alienate themselves even further when one has this kind of thing going on

Priest urges chastity instead of cervical cancer jab | Irish Examiner

[imokyrok]

shariah law will be firmly in place by 2028

Don't be ridiculous. We had our own form of sharia law long enough. We aint going back.

[Old Mr Grouser]

No. I'm a former seminarian, but I am now an atheist, ...

Well, at least you were honest, and you got out. What scares me is that there is a style of Christianity around now where people don't have to believe in God.

And you have to wonder if a belief in Christ is still an essential requirement for seminarians.

I'm an old man; I was a Catholic all my life until a few years ago; but then, and by an odd quirk, and as the result of something I was doing because I was a Catholic, I joined a very conservative evangelical church. I was 'apprehended by the Lord' as they say.

I think I had become increasingly uneasy with the RCC; that is with some priests and an awful lot of the active laity. I could sense from the sanctimonious drivel they kept coming out with that plainly they did not really believe in God.

They had to be atheists.

[Cato]

I'm afraid they're managing quite well to alienate themselves even further when one has this kind of thing going on

Priest urges chastity instead of cervical cancer jab | Irish Examiner

What was really weird about that is that it is now so rare for a Catholic priest to express and defend catholic orthodoxy any more. People really seem to have been shocked by this priest doing so.

[Sean O'Brian]

shariah law will be firmly in place by 2028

How do you see that happening?

I don't know about that but I do think that most significant consequence of the decline of religious belief in this country has been the mass immigration of people of non-traditional religions of which we know little.

Aside from the liberal principle of non-discrimination having replaced Catholicism as the ruling belief of our society, a belief in the unimportance of religion and the general sameness of all religions can only be held by people who are themselves of low religious belief.

[mr_anderson]

Well, at least you were honest, and you got out. What scares me is that there is a style of Christianity around now where people don't have to believe in God.

Which reminds me ...


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[Radix]

This is true. With the lower levels of manpower, it will leave the RCC quite stretched in trying to stay directly involved in schools and hospitals. This can only be a good thing as long as the clerics are not replaced by even more regressive lay people. Certainly there is an opportunity coming to remove the RCC from the public sphere and relegate it to the solely private sphere of its own believers. They're currently on their knees and close to falling. Time to give them a kicking and make sure they stay down.

And let the lunatics take over the asylum Cato?

[Cato]

I don't know about that but I do think that most significant consequence of the decline of religious belief in this country has been the mass immigration of people of non-traditional religions of which we know little.

Aside from the liberal principle of non-discrimination having replaced Catholicism as the ruling belief of our society, a belief in the unimportance of religion and the general sameness of all religions can only be held by people who are themselves of low religious belief.

I'm a (classical) liberal but I don't hold that all religions are the same. Some are a damn sight more dangerous than others and the state would be justified in keeping them out.

[Cato]

And let the lunatics take over the asylum Cato?

Not at all. What makes you think that?

[Old Mr Grouser]

Which reminds me ...


YouTube - Yes Prime Minister - on Religion

Thanks for that, Mr A. Sadly it's the plain truth, here as in the UK.