New Southern Orange Magazine!

[Gadjodilo]

Informed about what?

How evil everyone else is while they parade around and spout their supremacist nonsense from a century only they live in?

How to celebrate spilling blood?

How to stand on a pedastol and curse the Irish, their language, their religion etc?

It should be banned, just like combat 18 or the BNP.

These cults are a reminder of the mentality of people from a darker less evolved era, they belong in a museum - like Tony Blair and his desire to bomb and kill everyone.

Britishness should have died out after their empire, and the blood thirsty war obsessed mentality should have died along with it.
From listening to Blair last night, he thinks the world is his and he wants more war and conflict and more follish troops to do his dirty work.
Britain should be disarmed.

The more people from The Other Tradition carp about the OO, the more it strengthens the hands of the hardliners. Ignore it, the moderates will gradually assume control and the hope would be that it would evolve into something a little more twenty-first centuryish.

[picador]

The more people from The Other Tradition carp about the OO, the more it strengthens the hands of the hardliners. Ignore it, the moderates will gradually assume control and the hope would be that it would evolve into something a little more twenty-first centuryish.

If there were ever any moderates in the Orange Order they left long ago.

The insititution is a bastion of ultra-conservative, right-wing reaction

[Schomberg]

All that however doesn't stop them from being subject to ridicule, just like any other organization should be, especially one which has some, let's charitably say, dated views. As ostensible upholders of the "Glorious Revolution", I'm sure the Order would agree.

Feel free. Water off a ducks back to me. All it does is reinforce the views of the hardliners.

Orangeism is a minority part of what constitutes the Ulster Protestant community, never mind the very broad church of Irish Protestantism in general.

Most southern Protestants want nothing to do with the Order, are they disrespecting themselves?

Says you. You have no evidence whatsoever to back any of that up. It's all conjecture. You'll tell me the numbers of membership are the evidence. I'll tell you that I have friends who all support the Orange Order, but are just too afraid of the reaction from their neigbours to get involved. I've had school mates who moved across the border and joined lodges. That says something to me. You'll come back to me, saying that's all hearsay, which is true and we're right back to square one. round and round we go. Orangeism is growing in the Republic of Ireland. That's a fact. Slow growth, but growth nonetheless.

[Schomberg]

If there were ever any moderates in the Orange Order they left long ago.

The insititution is a bastion of ultra-conservative, right-wing reaction

says who? you? and you're extensive involvement within the Orange Order is what you're basing that on?

[st333ve]

says who? you? and you're extensive involvement within the Orange Order is what you're basing that on?

Says the people who left.
What did you call that man Malcomson?

He went right through the ranks from Orange to Black and came out the other end calling it Satanic and more like Pagan Witchcraft than anything religious.

Then there's the others who get fed up with the paramilitary and war nonsence from the OO and left, never mind the people who left after Drumcree.

These are all people who were part of it, if anyone knows what they're talking about it's them.
What makes you believe that you are more informed???

The OO portrays itself as the culture of Protestansts, it's not.
It's a cult.
Opposing the OO is not opposing or repressing Protestants.

Moderate Protestants need to stand up to the OO and make people realise that the OO and Protestants are not the same organisation.

[Cruimh]

You claim not to have mentioned religion and yet you have branded Blair a 'Tim', which is a derogatory Glaswegian term for a Catholic. It seems you just can't help yourself!

Chist - you really ARE STUPID.....

Look who I was responding to with that post ......

[Fr. Hank Tree]

I'll tell you that I have friends who all support the Orange Order, but are just too afraid of the reaction from their neigbours to get involved.

I'd say it's more a case of them telling you what you want to hear actually

[Scipio]

Says you. You have no evidence whatsoever to back any of that up. It's all conjecture. You'll tell me the numbers of membership are the evidence. I'll tell you that I have friends who all support the Orange Order, but are just too afraid of the reaction from their neigbours to get involved. I've had school mates who moved across the border and joined lodges.

You're right I don't. I do have fairly extensive personal experience of the southern Protestant community though, and in the absence of any cast iron figures, I'm willing to go with that.

If you've got any figures, especially concerning young Protestants under the age of 25 joining in the South, I'd be most interested to see them.

Moderate Protestants need to stand up to the OO and make people realise that the OO and Protestants are not the same organisation.

Surely anyone with something between their ears already knows that St333ve. Conflate the OO with Protestants in general and you risk causing serious offence, at least down South.

The OO are more an organization concerned with celebrating a certain idea of Britishness with a religious aspect tacked on in my book.

[Schomberg]

I'd say it's more a case of them telling you what you want to hear really

whatever helps you sleep better

[Cruimh]

Moderate Protestants need to stand up to the OO and make people realise that the OO and Protestants are not the same organisation.

You seem to think protestantism is an organisation ..... Still, to be expected from Boston's finest