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    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    No.

    Many studies lose sight of common sense. Most people panic when drowning and automatically resort to screaming and thrashing about.

    I grew up beside the grand canal, swam in many popular lakes with hundreds of others, and witnessed a few drownings at the seaside. and saw and experienced quite a few near tragedies too.

    Yes a few WILL just slip silently beneath the water but the old saying a drowning man will cling at a straw remains true.
    That's super intelligent >> quote a old proverb and take it literally.

    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Lifeguards at the coast would be rather obsolete if they didn't spot people in obvious distress.

    Human bodies falling or jumping into canals make quite a loud splash.

    I know all about nearly drowning in a municipal swimming pool with a life guard sat not hearing my screams for help or thrashing.

    Same happened with my daughter a very strong swimmer who got cramp and could not attract help from the life guard at a lake swim for charity.

    The stories of drownings and near drownings I have heard cover my lifetime.

    As boy we were told by teachers to try and knock out a potential victim of drowning. Ha ha.

    Now we are told to wait till the person drowning exhausts him/herself before attempting to help them.

    That must be fun. Paddling water as the poor and unfortunate human being is fighting for it's life seeing you floating along, paring your nails and yawning.
    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Please explain why.

    I write from a lot of experience in life and from listening to countless stories from other people about their experiences of tragedies.

    An 11 year old classmate and pal drowned in the river Irwell in Salford lancs so my grasp of the seriousness of the topic is not to be underestimated.

    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    "Down down down" Then what happened?

    I had a simliar experience in the grand canal at a younger age.. seven.

    Saw children wading and thought I could too, but the sudden increase in depth caught me by surprise and I headed for the bank pronto! Nobody noticed my panic.
    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Important thing is you survived to tell the tale.

    Being an avid and regular swimmer as a boy and man I have had quite a few near tragic adventures that were not at all funny at the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    The boy I saved from drowning was definitely screaming. Otherwise I would not have known he was in trouble as I was swimming well ahead of him at the time.
    Your grand canal watch days.

    Are you now restless/bored and retired by any chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Daddy!

    The rest is nonsense I have first hand experience of people drowning and screaming for help. Myself included.
    Only you are talking nonsense >> quoting your experiences as if they are guides.

    You realize you are contradicting yourself in your own statements above >> read them.

    Every incident is going to be unique >> the article is expressing a general caution in context of a known fact to anyone involved with life threatening incidents >> and to many experiencing a major life shock.
    Many people become helpless and literally unable to speak or move >> some even think they are trying to scream for help but not a word comes out. Same with movement.

    Unless you have been in one of the emergency services and have been personally involved in such events on a regular basis >> do save your idle guesswork.
    It is pathetic and arrogant to be so flippant to other peoples lives and loss >> and insulting to those who risk their lives for the accidental or stupid actions of individuals.
    Most of the stupid ones are like you >> old enough to know better.

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    As a parent you have my thanks for sharing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toidissatafu View Post
    That's super intelligent >> quote a old proverb and take it literally.











    Your grand canal watch days.

    Are you now restless/bored and retired by any chance?



    Only you are talking nonsense >> quoting your experiences as if they are guides.

    You realize you are contradicting yourself in your own statements above >> read them.

    Every incident is going to be unique >> the article is expressing a general caution in context of a known fact to anyone involved with life threatening incidents >> and to many experiencing a major life shock.
    Many people become helpless and literally unable to speak or move >> some even think they are trying to scream for help but not a word comes out. Same with movement.

    Unless you have been in one of the emergency services and have been personally involved in such events on a regular basis >> do save your idle guesswork.
    It is pathetic and arrogant to be so flippant to other peoples lives and loss >> and insulting to those who risk their lives for the accidental or stupid actions of individuals.
    Most of the stupid ones are like you >> old enough to know better.
    Young ignoramuses are always telling me as I approach 70 how little I know. May I remind you an eleven year old school pal of mine drowned in the filthy waters of the River Irwell in Salford UK. How flippant is that!?

    His nickname at school was, Redstar, because of a birthmark on his face. I have never forgotten his cheeky antics and ready smile.He helped me out at school dinners by eating the beetroot from my plate. We were not allowed to waste food in those 1953 days. When teachers knew best and we were just observers. Some of us more discerning than others.

    I'll not be back to this thread so save your rudeness for those of your own level.
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    I was thinking about taking swimming lessons, now I think I won't as I have got this far quite happily and safely not knowing how to swim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacbloc View Post
    Just saw this posted by @tnteachertim on twitter - should be required reading for everyone in the country.

    Full article:

    Drowning Doesn’t Look Like Drowning
    Thanks for highlighting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Young ignoramuses are always telling me as I approach 70 how little I know. May I remind you an eleven year old school pal of mine drowned in the filthy waters of the River Irwell in Salford UK. How flippant is that!?

    His nickname at school was, Redstar, because of a birthmark on his face. I have never forgotten his cheeky antics and ready smile.He helped me out at school dinners by eating the beetroot from my plate. We were not allowed to waste food in those 1953 days. When teachers knew best and we were just observers. Some of us more discerning than others.

    I'll not be back to this thread so save your rudeness for those of your own level.
    That settles that so, you know someone who died, therefore all drowning people scream and thrash about.

    If I ever see someone's head going under the water repeatedly while they're swimming, I won't be caught out. I'll tell 'em old Maurice told me not to bother me hole unless there's screaming and thrashing about.

    Back in my day we knew how to drown properly...
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    I thought this thread was going to introduce a way to fool police forensic experts.....tut....
    If I could mass-sterilise the planet, I would. Seriously.
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    I was also told by my father to try to knock out the person drowning as they would drag you under in their panic, and, becuse they were panicking it is supposedly easy to do. I was suspect of that then. However I would also like to introduce you to the danger of secondary drowning. You can be up and walking about after being pulled out and yet drown that night when sleeping. Make sure that the victim gets to hospital and gets his lungs checked out. If there is any water in there they are still in danger.

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