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    I am not getting my child Baptised

    I have a 10 month old child. Both me and my fiance were baptised in the catholic church. Neither of us are practising catholics but come from families that include many strongly religious people. My fiance has a few nuns in the family, My own grandmother attends mass every day, our parents have stong convictions that we ought to get our baby baptised.

    There is absolutely no way we are going to get our child baptised into the roman catholic church.
    By making this decision, we are aware that it could affect our childs chances of getting into a school of our choice. We know he will miss out on the big cultural occasions of early childhood, communion, confirmation and first confession. By making this decision to not baptise our child, we are offending family members and causing them hardship and worry as they can not be at ease until the child's soul is protected

    We are fully aware that the above are often the main reason why irish children are baptised into the church, over and above any religious conviction, people are catholics by birth, not belief. But I refuse to make one of the first acts as a parent for my child, to endanger him by putting him into an institution with such an appalling history of abuse and horrific violence against innocent children.

    I am not going to tell a young child to pray to protect the pope and the bishops or to make oaths to be loyal to a church that has no moral authority, and therefore absolutely no reason for being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    I have a 10 month old child. Both me and my fiance were baptised in the catholic church. Neither of us are practising catholics but come from families that include many strongly religious people. My fiance has a few nuns in the family, My own grandmother attends mass every day, our parents have stong convictions that we ought to get our baby baptised.

    There is absolutely no way we are going to get our child baptised into the roman catholic church.
    By making this decision, we are aware that it could affect our childs chances of getting into a school of our choice. We know he will miss out on the big cultural occasions of early childhood, communion, confirmation and first confession. By making this decision to not baptise our child, we are offending family members and causing them hardship and worry as they can not be at ease until the child's soul is protected

    We are fully aware that the above are often the main reason why irish children are baptised into the church, over and above any religious conviction, people are catholics by birth, not belief. But I refuse to make one of the first acts as a parent for my child, to endanger him by putting him into an institution with such an appalling history of abuse and horrific violence against innocent children.

    I am not going to tell a young child to pray to protect the pope and the bishops or to make oaths to be loyal to a church that has no moral authority, and therefore absolutely no reason for being.
    I'll wager, one of the child's grandparents will baptise the him/her when you are not around. Remember, all Catholics hold the power of Baptism. You don't need a priest, or a church.
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    I'm a die hard atheist but would have no problem faking the thing if it helped get a child into a better school or just kept the inlaws off my back. I'm already a godfather so swore all that gobbledygook to a priest.

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    Good on ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    I'm a die hard atheist but would have no problem faking the thing if it helped get a child into a better school or just kept the inlaws off my back. I'm already a godfather so swore all that gobbledygook to a priest.
    Hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    Hypocrite.
    I would say more of a liar than a hypocrite.

    Anyway,why pick a fight with people I genuinely like over something I don't really care about (saying a bunch of words to some priest)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    Hypocrite.
    Not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    I have a 10 month old child. Both me and my fiance were baptised in the catholic church. Neither of us are practising catholics but come from families that include many strongly religious people. My fiance has a few nuns in the family, My own grandmother attends mass every day, our parents have stong convictions that we ought to get our baby baptised.

    There is absolutely no way we are going to get our child baptised into the roman catholic church.
    By making this decision, we are aware that it could affect our childs chances of getting into a school of our choice. We know he will miss out on the big cultural occasions of early childhood, communion, confirmation and first confession. By making this decision to not baptise our child, we are offending family members and causing them hardship and worry as they can not be at ease until the child's soul is protected

    We are fully aware that the above are often the main reason why irish children are baptised into the church, over and above any religious conviction, people are catholics by birth, not belief. But I refuse to make one of the first acts as a parent for my child, to endanger him by putting him into an institution with such an appalling history of abuse and horrific violence against innocent children.

    I am not going to tell a young child to pray to protect the pope and the bishops or to make oaths to be loyal to a church that has no moral authority, and therefore absolutely no reason for being.


    Well done when more of us (Catholics) take a stand maybe the Church will start paying attention, but why not write to your Bishop and express your feelings instead of an internet forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    What is this - Twitter? Tell us what you had for breakfast why don't you?
    Newsflash - nobody gives a rat's ass.
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