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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    I have a 10 month old child. Both me and my fiance were baptised in the catholic church. Neither of us are practising catholics but come from families that include many strongly religious people.
    Followed the same path myself with my own offspring, and have never regretted it.

    Some family members raised an eyebrow, but people get over things pretty quickly.

    If you are not true to your own convictions with your own kids, then how can you ever expect them to be honest with you.

    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    I have a 10 month old child. Both me and my fiance were baptised in the catholic church. Neither of us are practising catholics but come from families that include many strongly religious people. My fiance has a few nuns in the family, My own grandmother attends mass every day, our parents have stong convictions that we ought to get our baby baptised.

    There is absolutely no way we are going to get our child baptised into the roman catholic church.
    By making this decision, we are aware that it could affect our childs chances of getting into a school of our choice. We know he will miss out on the big cultural occasions of early childhood, communion, confirmation and first confession. By making this decision to not baptise our child, we are offending family members and causing them hardship and worry as they can not be at ease until the child's soul is protected

    We are fully aware that the above are often the main reason why irish children are baptised into the church, over and above any religious conviction, people are catholics by birth, not belief. But I refuse to make one of the first acts as a parent for my child, to endanger him by putting him into an institution with such an appalling history of abuse and horrific violence against innocent children.

    I am not going to tell a young child to pray to protect the pope and the bishops or to make oaths to be loyal to a church that has no moral authority, and therefore absolutely no reason for being.
    Are you yourself a Catholic and were you married in a catholic church
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    I'm a die hard atheist but would have no problem faking the thing if it helped get a child into a better school or just kept the inlaws off my back. I'm already a godfather so swore all that gobbledygook to a priest.
    This would be my position as well. I see the OP's point, but on balance I think the child's better off baptised (for the sake of getting into school, not making a fuss, etc), so I've got no problem saying the magic words and all that. Sure it's hypocritical. I don't really care, I'm not going to hell for hypocrisy.
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    I would say more of a liar than a hypocrite.

    Anyway,why pick a fight with people I genuinely like over something I don't really care about (saying a bunch of words to some priest)
    So instead of stating your point of view, i.e i don't believe in that mumbojumbo but thanks for offering you deliberatly stood in a church and made a mokery of those people's faith whom you claim to care about?

    Strange and definetly hypocritical
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    It is a difficult decision not many have to face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    But I refuse to make one of the first acts as a parent for my child, to endanger him by putting him into an institution with such an appalling history of abuse and horrific violence against innocent children.

    I am not going to tell a young child to pray to protect the pope and the bishops or to make oaths to be loyal to a church that has no moral authority, and therefore absolutely no reason for being.
    You make Baptism here sound like a legal commitment to hand over your son to the church.
    Not Baptising is fine, but is it really because you're afraid your child will be abused as a consequence or will pray for the pope?
    Thousands are baptised every year that don't see the inside of a church again, except for weddings, etc.

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    Why not get your child baptised in church of ireland - it's the same ceremony as far as I know. My friend's child was baptised in CoI and she's a catholic (the child has made her communion in catholic school - no problems). It might make your family happy and you will have made your point re the catholic church. I felt the same as you but gave in and had my baby baptised, and actually it is a lovely moving ceremony. Anyway, I applaud your decision, and I doubt you'll have any problems getting your child into schools. They're not allowed discriminate and infairness schools don't.

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    Anyone who is a catholic and was married in a catholic church has agreed to bring their childen up in a catholic faith... Goes with the turf...

    Its very "fashionable" to be seen do this at present. If you had any desire to show leadership - Leave the catholic church yourself and renounce the faith. It's like someone saying they are a vegetarian yet eating chicken.

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